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GueroPaz
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 216 Location: Thailand or Mexico
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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I lived among foreigners in the US, and attended political rallies with more than a few prior to 11 Sept 2001, a few after then. As far as I know, unless recent legislation rescinded the Bill of Rights, all aliens in the USA, including illegals, have all the rights of citizens, except to vote or run for public office, or be a federal employee..
I think illegal Mexicans and others have the right to protest. |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: rights. |
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That was my understanding as well. And to qualify the federal employee status, it is also illegal for a non-citizen to be a member of the armed forces. The last is an interesting case in point as there have been several fatalities among armed personnel in Iraq who were non-citizens, so I suppose when it comes to dying for your country, the feds look the other way. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Going back on topic, why can't you buy a bed in Mexico?
I mean a complete bed with mattress and headboard, not just a base, which you have to add a mattress - I'm sure that's how we used to buy beds in England. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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The last is an interesting case in point as there have been several fatalities among armed personnel in Iraq who were non-citizens, so I suppose when it comes to dying for your country, the feds look the other way. |
There is a program in place by which you can earn a green card if you serve in the armed forces for 2 years, or some other term.
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I mean a complete bed with mattress and headboard, not just a base, which you have to add a mattress - I'm sure that's how we used to buy beds in England. |
You can. I did just such a thing at Sears (ok that's not exactly Mexican) two years ago.
Later edit: a reader corrected me in pointing out that it is citizenship a foreign born soldier earns, not a green card.
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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You can also buy all the parts together in Elektra and it's sister stores as well as various other places.
Back off topic,
In the US some states have passed laws to deny certain services to illegal immigrants, like driver's licenses and public health services. Other states have enacted laws to specifically prohibit education and health officials from asking immigrants their migratory status. |
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GueroPaz
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 216 Location: Thailand or Mexico
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: |
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My comment about 'federal employees' meant civilian, not military. When I served in the US military long ago, we had aliens amongst us (a French Canadian, no less!!). But at the IRS, every employee had to be a citizen, and there were many naturalized employees, including a Transylvanian with an MA and a lingering Dracula accent (same home town!).
Trying hard to drag this back on topic, each country is entitled to restrict the activities of aliens, and Mexico has special reasons. The big Mexican bread company Bimbo bought Mrs. Baird's bakery from Texas, but doesn't want Big Oil owning Pemex. ....countless jokes about Mrs. Baird now being a Mexican bimbo....  |
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cangringo

Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 327 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I said I wouldn't post anymore but this is on topic and I couldn't resist....recently they have been repaving our streets here and they accidentally covered all the manholes...the solution was to send out crews of two men to find them and dig them out which in turn caused cracks and a lot of damage to the new paving. The solution to that is to fill in the holes with dirt and in some instance concrete...which means that the concrete will not settle and the asphalt will. So my point is, it's like they didn't repave at all at this point.
That one just makes us laugh. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Phil_K wrote: |
Going back on topic, why can't you buy a bed in Mexico?
I mean a complete bed with mattress and headboard, not just a base, which you have to add a mattress - I'm sure that's how we used to buy beds in England. |
There would be too many homeless colchoner�a owners?
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Ok I said I wouldn't post anymore but this is on topic and I couldn't resist....recently they have been repaving our streets here and they accidentally covered all the manholes...the solution was to send out crews of two men to find them and dig them out which in turn caused cracks and a lot of damage to the new paving. The solution to that is to fill in the holes with dirt and in some instance concrete...which means that the concrete will not settle and the asphalt will. So my point is, it's like they didn't repave at all at this point. |
SLP has the same kind of lunacy. Every time it rains the city floods in less than half an hour. There is drainage but it's full of garbage thrown in the street by the mainly ignorant inhabitants. To make matters worse there's a freeway which used to be a river (SLP is famous for this), and hence reverts to a river ever time it rains diverting all the traffic through the colonial centre. There are some horrendous accidents along this stretch of road as it's badly maintained and not paved properly. Many have come a cropper when the three lanes become two, separated by a bridge support - genius. |
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cangringo

Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 327 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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it is lunacy
I forgot to mention that the parts they have covered in sand have now washed all the sand down to other streets which I�m sure will help to clog the already pathetic drainage so when it rains it will flood somewhere. Luckily we are on a sloped street and don�t have to worry too much. Every year in hurricane season they worry about the flooding but no one ever seems to fix it. |
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Dragonlady

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 720 Location: Chillinfernow, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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not directly related to TESOL
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cangringo

Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 327 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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real bonfide asphalt in some places...although the whole city is not paved yet  |
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sarliz

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Jalisco
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I keep needing to wash grubby, paint-filled things in these sinks that are starting to be the bane of my existance. They have two wells. The one which has a spout over it is drainless and usually deeper, and the well with a drain has no spout. Therefore, you need to hand-ladle the water over from the spout side onto the thing you're washing a cup at a time, or risk getting the gunk you're cleaning off into the undrainable and therefore pretty unwashable side. I am truely baffled. How could someone have designed this sink and though "Yes! Perfectly engineered!". I washed out a paint roller the other night one plastic yogurt container of water at a time, and by the end I had used about 1 grillion cups and was ready to strangle somebody. Anybody? |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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These sinks are an evolution from no running water--not necessarily a good evolution and we can hope they won't survive. But imagine if you will, someone washing clothes, dishes, paint rollers, who has no running water only a tank full of water. They would scoop water out of the tank with a gourd, pan, or what ever they happened to have. Now you pipe water into this person's home, cause that's what developing countries do and you want your country to be developed, but the person has never seen any other way to wash. And they develop this sink inorder to keep washing the way they always have, but with piped in water.
Short of tearing up your house (and assuming it's a rental), here's a tip, use a wadded up old plastic bag--a very abundant natural resource these days, to plug the drain in one side, then scope over as much water as you need. Also if you have an old bucket with a chip out of one part near the top, like where the handle broke off, this works great to stand under that tap, a whole bucket won't fit, but a broken one will. You can also get a short bit of hose, like half a meter, and a connection for that tap for REAL cheap at just about any hardware store. |
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GueroPaz
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 216 Location: Thailand or Mexico
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Melee is right about how a developing nation has adapted indoor plumbing and electricity to the existing customs and infrastructure. Our apartment in San Cristobal had a five gallon water heater that looked 40 years old, rusted beyond redemption, no safety valve, no thermostat. You lit it, waited at least 15 minutes, and it kept heating the water until it boiled, spewing out the top and roasting the roof tiles and the person in the shower. It never dawned on the landlady or her tenants to pipe that hot water into the adjacent kitchen.
Here in Thailand, generations of Thais learned to take 'showers' from a big bucket of water in the shed, splashing themselves with a ladle. Some still do that even with a shower unit overhead! They also use their left hand to wash their rear after they defecate! Never shake left hands with a Thai.... |
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