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shadowfax



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mr Slat.

We may recall that poor doc Faustus was torn limb from limb by the devils. His mortal sin, as I take it, was the sacrificing of the good Old Man in order to gain the the vision of the Hermetic Helen of Troy. A rather good DVD is available with Richard Burton. However, 'tis a little spoilt by some naked bosomed women and a copious foisting of Elizabeth Taylor in the speechless part of Helen. Still, Burton enounces well and there is a very humorous scene in the Vatican.

Omophagia I was unaware of and thanks for that.

Could be seen as bearing upon the Eucharist in some mysterious (neoplatonic?) way. Augustine might have said the fallen angels produced omophagia as a travesty of the divine procession and return of the Neoplatonists.

007: I might term myself a Neo-early-modernist but elements of Neo-classicism could be there also. Perhaps I may be an "unacknowledged legislator" (as Shelley described poets) rather than a "dictator". But as I have not published any of my corpus, I am something of a nobody really (or Nobodaddy as Blake might have said). If the Lord wills it, I hope to produce a volume in this terrene orb.

Your comment on Neo-classicism was helpful in encouraging me to define my poetic identity and in fact triggered the manifestation of the term Neo-early-modernist, a term which has not yet been applied to a living literary school or cultural ethos as far as I am aware.

Once again, Mr Slat, it was refreshing to read your own accomplished piece which also displays elements of the Neo-early-modernism, I believe. It's a shame that there is so much utter dross out there, on websites and the lists of "vanity" publishers, that anything worthy of attention is buried in the deluge.

Regards.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Write on Reply with quote

Dear shadowfax,

"It's a shame that there is so much utter dross out there, on websites and the lists of "vanity" publishers, that anything worthy of attention is buried in the deluge."

I can't dispute that, but let me add that I also believe talent and skill will rise to the top sooner or later. I sincerely hope you'll never get so discouraged by the abundance of dross that you'll abandon your writing.
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John
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: It can hurt to flirt Reply with quote

The Society for the Preservation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice strikes again:

Saudi men arrested for 'flirting'

Relations between the sexes outside marriage is against the law
Prosecutors in Saudi Arabia have begun investigating 57 young men who were arrested on Thursday for flirting with girls at shopping centres in Mecca.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7260314.stm
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007



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: It can hurt to flirt Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
The Society for the Preservation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice strikes again:

Dear John

The above is not a society, and they do not �preserve�, they �propagate� the Wahabism virtue! Laughing
They are like a �police academy� of about 4000 members called the Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice.

I think you and me should setup a society and call it the 'Society for the Propagation of Values and the Preventation of Vampires'

What do you think? Laughing
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I didn't know this. I guess it was not reported in the local press:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6980056.stm
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear 007,
Well, there do seem to be some varying translations of that group's official name:

". . . the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice."

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:uTzS8JBAeKcJ:xrdarabia.org/category/saudi-society/+Saudi+Arabia+Society+for+the+Preservation+of+virtue+and+the+Prevention+of+vice&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

But to quote the Bard (and since this thread started off with "red roses", it seems rather appropriate):

"What�s in a name? That which we call a rose / By any other name would smell as sweet."

Although in the present instance, I don't believe the Commission/Committee smells "sweet" at all.

As for our society, I rather like this name:

The Society for the Propagation of Virility and the Prevention of Virginity

Now how's that for a politically incorrect, male chauvinist soubriquet?

Regards,
John

Regards,
John
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Society for the Propagation of Virility and the Prevention of Virginity
How can you prevent virginity? You can cure it, but prevention means stopping it happening in the first place.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Just Say Yes Reply with quote

Dear Stephen,

"How can you prevent virginity?"

Oh, about as successfully as you can prevent vice.

Regards,
John

P.S. But you're quite right - maybe I should change it to

The Society for the Propagation of Virility and the Prevention of Vasectomies
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