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wulfrun
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 Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: best students in the world? |
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who are the best students in the world to teach?
east asians obedient and respectful, but maybe not creative enough, and too overworked? 
spanish energetic, but maybe too boisterous? 
how about the swedes? i taught some last summer and they were so polite and intelligent. 
i've only 18 months' experience, so would appreciate input... |
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arioch36
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| east asians obedient and respectful |
??? Haven't found this to be true, though I expected it to be truth based on my stereotypes/American stereotypes of the children of the Chinese parents who immigrated to America |
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wulfrun
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| east asians obedient and respectful |
??? Haven't found this to be true, though I expected it to be truth based on my stereotypes/American stereotypes of the children of the Chinese parents who immigrated to America |
i say this on the back of 18 months at chinese universities, and teaching chinese and japanese teenagers in mixed classes with other nationalities on a summer course in the uk. the chinese and japanese kids were all asking for homework, and studiously did their work in class; while the spaniards, russians, germans periodically groaned, chatted at the back of the class, or just didnt turn up for the lesson.
it seems clear to me that - in some sense - chinese (and japanese, from my short experience) are obedient and repsectful. but, of course, an important question is how superficial this respect is, and how easily it can be compromised. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Based on my current job, I'd say the best students in the world can be found
in prison.
I'm teaching GED to inmates at the New Mexico State Penitentiary now, and I've never had a group of more motivated, more respectful students.
Regards,
John |
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Sadebugo
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I teach foreign military from a multitude of countries around the world. I've had some good students from every country, but if I had to look at trends, I would say the East Europeans are the best I've ever had. They possess that rare combination of high aptitude and wonderful attitude. No behavorial problems at all and not reticent to speak like many East Asians.
I know you didn't ask this, but the worst students (because of behavior)I've had are usually from the Middle East with the Kuwaitis really standing out as disruptive. On the other hand, the Omanis have always been excellent students. I have no idea why there is such a disparity between them and the other ME students.
Sadebugo
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wulfrun
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
| the worst students (because of behavior)I've had are usually from the Middle East with the Kuwaitis really standing out as disruptive. |
ha ha, answers on that are welcome too.
i had three emirati students last summer; they rarely turned up for class, and were completely unmotivated when they did. |
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naturegirl321
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| You can't stereotype, there are good and bad students in every country. |
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naturegirl321
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Sorry to the OP, but arioch has been in China for about six years, so I'd take his word.
AS for the mmore homework, it's because their whole family, parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, are putting stress on them to get into good unis. They take tests, usually in primary, that will determmine their future. Bad results, bad mmiddle school, bad high school, bad uni. |
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Will.
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| The ones who pay regularly, on time and well |
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wulfrun
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Sorry to the OP, but arioch has been in China for about six years, so I'd take his word. |
thanks for the reply, but - no doubt - arioch and i are not even disagreeing, for the reasons i mentioned. |
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Marcoregano
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| You can't stereotype, there are good and bad students in every country. |
But you can generalise. |
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sweeney66
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| Mexican high school students are legendarily a nightmare, but Mexican uni students are a dream. What happens to them in that one summer? |
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jpvanderwerf2001
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I think Russian and Ukrainian students are excellent: These cultures tend to take education very seriously. Plus the fairer sex isn't bad to look at  |
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Mike_2007
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Hi folks,
I've only taught Romanians and Turks.
The Turks are very open, talkative and friendly and it takes little to get them speaking in English at any level. They seem to enjoy discussion and role-plays and similar communicative exercises. Attendance and homework are their weaker points.
Romanians are pretty much the opposite. I get far fewer cancellations here in Romania and they nearly always do their homework so from a financial point of view they are the 'better' students. They are, however, less talkative, less inquisitive and rarely have (or at least rarely want to share) their opinions.
Naturally these are generalisations and there are numerous exceptions.
Overall I think I enjoyed teaching the Turks more, but I'm much happier with my teaching programme and income in Romania.
All the best,
Mike |
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Sadebugo
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| You can't stereotype, there are good and bad students in every country. |
What does 'stereotype' mean exactly? When I have a class of Kuwaitis, I have a bad experience about 90 percent of the time. When I have a class of Czech students, I have a positive experience virtually one hundred percent of the time. That's not stereotyping; that's empirical data.
Stereotyping is just a word used to condemn anyone who might be pointing out some unpleasant truths.
And yes, for every 100 Kuwaiti students, there are probably 10 good ones and the inverse for the Czech students. As you said, there are good and bad students in every country. It's just the proportion of each that differs depending on the country.
Sadebugo
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