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wulfrun



Joined: 12 May 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: best students in the world? Reply with quote
who are the best students in the world to teach?

east asians obedient and respectful, but maybe not creative enough, and too overworked? Embarassed

spanish energetic, but maybe too boisterous? Twisted Evil

how about the swedes? i taught some last summer and they were so polite and intelligent. Question

i've only 18 months' experience, so would appreciate input...
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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east asians obedient and respectful


??? Haven't found this to be true, though I expected it to be truth based on my stereotypes/American stereotypes of the children of the Chinese parents who immigrated to America
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wulfrun



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
arioch36 wrote:
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east asians obedient and respectful


??? Haven't found this to be true, though I expected it to be truth based on my stereotypes/American stereotypes of the children of the Chinese parents who immigrated to America


i say this on the back of 18 months at chinese universities, and teaching chinese and japanese teenagers in mixed classes with other nationalities on a summer course in the uk. the chinese and japanese kids were all asking for homework, and studiously did their work in class; while the spaniards, russians, germans periodically groaned, chatted at the back of the class, or just didnt turn up for the lesson.

it seems clear to me that - in some sense - chinese (and japanese, from my short experience) are obedient and repsectful. but, of course, an important question is how superficial this respect is, and how easily it can be compromised.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Based on my current job, I'd say the best students in the world can be found
in prison.
I'm teaching GED to inmates at the New Mexico State Penitentiary now, and I've never had a group of more motivated, more respectful students.
Regards,
John
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Sadebugo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I teach foreign military from a multitude of countries around the world. I've had some good students from every country, but if I had to look at trends, I would say the East Europeans are the best I've ever had. They possess that rare combination of high aptitude and wonderful attitude. No behavorial problems at all and not reticent to speak like many East Asians.

I know you didn't ask this, but the worst students (because of behavior)I've had are usually from the Middle East with the Kuwaitis really standing out as disruptive. On the other hand, the Omanis have always been excellent students. I have no idea why there is such a disparity between them and the other ME students.

Sadebugo
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wulfrun



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sadebugo wrote:
the worst students (because of behavior)I've had are usually from the Middle East with the Kuwaitis really standing out as disruptive.


ha ha, answers on that are welcome too.

i had three emirati students last summer; they rarely turned up for class, and were completely unmotivated when they did.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't stereotype, there are good and bad students in every country.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry to the OP, but arioch has been in China for about six years, so I'd take his word.

AS for the mmore homework, it's because their whole family, parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, are putting stress on them to get into good unis. They take tests, usually in primary, that will determmine their future. Bad results, bad mmiddle school, bad high school, bad uni.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The ones who pay regularly, on time and well
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wulfrun



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
naturegirl321 wrote:
Sorry to the OP, but arioch has been in China for about six years, so I'd take his word.


thanks for the reply, but - no doubt - arioch and i are not even disagreeing, for the reasons i mentioned.
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