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veiledsentiments
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Go to his posting history. He just did a TEFL cert of some kind in Thailand in the last year, so he has neither an MA or teacher certification... and was even posting on a previous thread in June about these same scams. He was told then to avoid recruiters!!
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Iamherebecause
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: visas |
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There is no legitimate employer paying US$4500 a month who makes a teacher pay for a visa. I have never paid for a visa...
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This means that UAEU is not a legitimate employer. Staff there pay for visas, and associated costs (HIV test). This year had to pay for the Emirates ID Card to boot. |
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kiefer
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| Most places are making employees pony up the dough for the civil IDs--but paying for a visa medical at a ministry clinic? That's odd. |
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Iamherebecause
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| paying for a visa medical at a ministry clinic? That's odd. |
Odd but true. Paid for health check on arrival, paid for every visa from the first to the current one. Paid for HIV tests at the Preventive Medicine Department. This year got the HIV test done in a private clinic (before they changed the rules) as I don't like the wait at the PMD; maybe it would have been free if I'd gone there.
I am sure I have read somewhere that employers are supposed to cover the cost of residence visas for staff: UAEU must save thousands of dirhams by making staff pay. |
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helenl
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| They are supposed to pay for visas and the medical checkups required to obtain the visa. I didn't know UAEU was scamming their employees for this - I wonder if anyone is pocketing these fees? |
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veiledsentiments
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That is the first I have heard of it too helen1.
And if so, when did this start? I am surprised that this hasn't come up in the past since it is so unusual. People here are usually pretty quick to complain about stuff like this.
What year did you arrive Iamherebecause?
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spicegirl
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| I arrived at UAEU in 1994 and had to pay for my visa then, and have continued to do so every time it has needed renewal. I have also always had to pay for the required blood tests etc. So this is not a new situation. Of course, when I first arrived I questioned this, but was told that UAEU has its own regulations. We also don't get a 'labour card', but only have our university ID cards as proof of employment. |
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veiledsentiments
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Hi Spice!!
Labor cards also seem to be something new. I got my first one in '99 on my second contract in Oman. None in Kuwait or the UAE...
Anyone else out there paying for visas and medical tests at their employers? ZU? ECAE? PI? AUS? UoS?
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adorabilly
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Tdude- This is a scam.
Here is how you can tell
E-Mail:[email protected]
notice the .tk? It is for a website located in a country that give free websites. So spammers set up fake webpages that LOOK EXACTLY like the real thing, but have the information page go to them.
This is a scam. Don't send them any money. |
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MsBedou
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: pooh! |
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NOTE: Processing Fees are 1,250 Dirham[AED] payable in Dirham[AED] or $USD Equivalent direct through any Bank/Agent of western union money transfer to below details of our listed staff who is incharge of Foreign travelling visa and work permit.
Reciever's Name: Mr. JABE MARUQ
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There is the proof of the scam.
I'm sure Mr Maruq will be happy to take your US$337. Western Union?? It makes you want to laugh at loud. A government ministry supposedly using Western Union??? I wonder how many suckers do it. Obviously enough, since they keep doing it.
I love the new added little footnote at the bottom quoting some obscure supposed law.
There is no legitimate employer paying US$4500 a month who makes a teacher pay for a visa. I have never paid for a visa...
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I had the same experience. I submitted my resume online. I received an email the next day asking me to send another email within 24 if I was still interested in the position. After doing so, I received a contract from Mr. Feroz Siddiqui and visa documents from Sayyed Ali Kazim with the Dept of Naturalization & Residency-Dubai. I asked numberous times about the interview process. The question was avoided initially and later Mr. Feroz responded by email saying "I look forward to working with you". Absolutely no interview process. Just simply submit your resume and you are hired.
I was told to pay for the work visa and I would be reimbursed shortly after arrival. I was also told that a e-ticket would be sent to me after I paid for the visa (via western union). According to the school website, there is someone listed by the name of Feroz Siddiqui which is the person that is sending the contract and offer letters. The contact number for Mr. Siddiqui is different from the number listed for him in the emails. He only uses a fax number as his office AND fax contact. I would imagine that he would include his actually number, not just a fax number.
Mr. Siddiqui was very kind in the beginning, as far as answering my questions. However, his patience wore off after I asked for his contact number so that I could call him with more questions (surely he didn't think I would fly half way across the world based on email exchanges). He stated that the school could not answer any more questions until I started the visa process (sent the money via western union). He would not give an actual contact number and told me to send a letter if I was not interested in the position.
I tried to contact the school to verify if this is the same Feroz Siddiqui that is actually listed on their site, or an imposter. I wanted to also no if they were in fact hiring. Nobody has responded as of yet. Its been about two days now.
Red flags (for me)
1. Being directed to the Department of Naturalization & Residency in Dubai instead of Abu Dhabi where the job is actually located.
2. Being asked to pay for the work visa and be reimbursed upon arrival (via western union??). Some employers do ask that you pay for the visa and sometimes the airfare. It isn't totally unheard of and you are reimbursed. But I don't think that is the case with this person.
3. The visa documents I received seemed to be outdated.
4. Mr. Feroz was very unwilling to give his direct contact number.
5. Mr. Feroz had to be pushed for answer. I would think that an employer would be happy to answer questions from a potential candidate, especially if the applicant is relocating abroad.
6. Mr. Feroz's email address is not the same as listed for the school on the school website.
7. The school website isn't included in Mr. Feroz's emails, only the wikipedia page.
8. Absolutely no interview. However, after pressing more about the interview process, Mr. Feroz stated that an "assessment/inteview" would be conducted after I arrived. For the record, there have been instances were ppl were not interviewed for ESL/EFL positions in other countries just based off of the person being a native speaker and having minimal qualifications, but this is very rare. Typically, those ppl were often referred by someone that currently works at the place of business, so it is not likely a scam. I don't think this is the case here.
Overall, I think this school may actually be in existence. But I think this person (Mr. Feroz) is either trying to make some extra cash collecting visa payments and actually does work for the school. Or he is using the real Mr. Feroz's name and misrepresenting himself as a representative of the school. But the entire ordeal is sketchy to me.
Here is Mr. Feroz's info as it appears in the emails:
FEROZ AHMED SIDDIQUI
SKBZ Bangladesh Islamia School,Abu-Dhabi
TEL/FAX:971-02-4446890
P.O..Box : 8174 Abu-Dhabi
United Arab Emirates
Email:[email protected]
Visit below website for details about SKBZ Bangladesh Islamia School,Abu Dhabi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Khalifa_Bin_Zayed_Bangladesh_Islamia_School_and_College_,_Abu_Dhabi
The email from the Department of Naturalizaton & Residency list Mr. Jabe Maruq as the "staff member in charge of foreign travelling visas and work permits.
The Department of Natualization & Residency emails list Sayed Ali Kazim as the "Comptroller Online Dept" for the United Arab Emirates-Ministry of Interior Naturalization & Residency Adminstration-Dubai. |
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helenl
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no legitimate school in the UAE uses a Hotmail, Gmail or Yahoo or equivialent account.
Steer clear of any communications that use these. Would you send your personal ID info or credit card info or actual $$$ to anyone in the "West" who asked you for this info? Why would you think that countries with literally billiions if not trillions in eurodollars would use "free" accounts? You might think (as do a lot of Western and other media) that they're not very sophisticated - and you'd be wrong.
Simple Logic woudl make you take a step back and think about it surely!!??!!!! |
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adorabilly
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MsBedou
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: pooh! |
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adorabilly - I agree with you 100%. I wanted to add my input for this scam also.
Thanks! |
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johnkg
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| notice the .tk? It is for a website located in a country that give free websites. So spammers set up fake webpages This is a scam. Don't send them any money. |
YES .tk is the Internet "country" code for a place called Tokelau (pop. 1,400), which is an island territory of New Zealand. It's know for its phishing sites - replicating real sites and passing them off as one's own. scam scam scam
Here's some info on it from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tk
sites for the uae have the uae domain code .ae |
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trapezius
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So if I understand this correctly, a school with that name DOES exist, but some scammers are falsely using the name of the school to 'hire' people and then to scam them out of money?
Also, is http://www.skbzbis.com the official website of the school? Looks like it... I mean, it even has pictures of the building. And the wikipedia page also points to the actual school?
I also noticed that "FEROZ AHMED SIDDIQUI" is listed under the names of teachers on the official website. So, the scammers are using his name to con people?
That's terrible.
I think I will send this fake FEROZ AHMED SIDDIQUI an email to ask how I can apply for a job and the with my great persuasive powers expose this scam! |
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