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Firearcher
Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 35
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: Salaries & More |
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Regarding a typical ESL Job in Vietnam:
Can someone please tell me the details for the following (On Average)
Salary Range:
Hours Worked Per Week
OT Rate if any
Cost of Housing? Free or not:
Pension: Yes / No
I've never worked in Vietnam and many jobs I see fail to mention these things.
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London Bridge

Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 34
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Salaries & More |
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We need more information from you.
What is your education? Training? EFL experience? EFL qaulifications?
Firearcher wrote: |
Regarding a typical ESL Job in Vietnam:
Can someone please tell me the details for the following (On Average)
Salary Range:
Hours Worked Per Week
OT Rate if any
Cost of Housing? Free or not:
Pension: Yes / No
I've never worked in Vietnam and many jobs I see fail to mention these things.
Thank You |
If people ask about salary, then I think teaching is not the priority. Of course, asking about salary is important.
Over-time? We are not in the West.
Pension? This is a cash job. If there was a pension, what pension fund would it be in? The foreign teacher pension fund, administered by whom? |
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shanewarne
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 146
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Salaries & More |
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Firearcher wrote: |
Regarding a typical ESL Job in Vietnam:
Can someone please tell me the details for the following (On Average)
Salary Range:
Hours Worked Per Week
OT Rate if any
Cost of Housing? Free or not:
Pension: Yes / No
I've never worked in Vietnam and many jobs I see fail to mention these things.
Thank You |
Language centre = average $16 per hour
Average working week = 20 hours
Cost of Housing = $300 per person
Pension = No |
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MrMrLuckyKhan
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Kingdom of Cambodia
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Salaries & More |
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London Bridge wrote: |
If people ask about salary, then I think teaching is not the priority. Of course, asking about salary is important.
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Yea, i think he just wanted to hear the AVERAGE income from teachers there. If you teach there please inform us of whats the going rates for different scenarios... THX!!! |
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saigon cowboy
Joined: 24 Apr 2009 Posts: 84
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I know guys that have been here for years only making 12 or 13 an hour. They like the school and know how to live cheap. As for me I would not work for that salary, but to each his own.
We must all find our comfort zone.
I don't need a 100 million dong honda 150 either, but i have seen a few new teachers driving them. Sheesh....for 100 million dong you could buy 8 new honda waves, or 3 tricked out Attilas with chrome trim.
My point is.... enjoy your money and your time here. |
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Green Acres
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 260
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I almost had a laugh about the pension and other benefits....
It all depends on the job, and your lifestyle. There is no safety net here, and many laws and practices that protected foreigners working and living here in the past have been abandoned. |
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MrMrLuckyKhan
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Kingdom of Cambodia
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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saigon cowboy wrote: |
I know guys that have been here for years only making 12 or 13 an hour. They like the school and know how to live cheap. |
Agreed, to each his/hers own. I know people in the US of A that make $12-$13USD per hour, and they live fine. As long as YOUR needs are less than YOUR means, you should be fine! |
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Magic8ball
Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 27 Location: HCMC
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Green Acres wrote: |
I almost had a laugh about the pension and other benefits....
It all depends on the job, and your lifestyle. There is no safety net here, and many laws and practices that protected foreigners working and living here in the past have been abandoned. |
This is cash on hand. No problem, if you have family back home or if you are young. I advise all of those coming to get medical insurance somehow if you are going to drive a motorbike or take motorbike taxis (xe oms).
If you even have a minor motorbike accident and and cannot work, or need medical attention, an operation, or a plane ticket out of here, you are on your own.
We are on our own.
Someone said new schools are opening up. I disagree. Not in hcmc they are not. Hours are still declining for teachers, and the early look into the Summer programs so far, are that they are smaller than last. year. We are trying to figure out why, but that is all just guessing and speculating.
Small towns, yes they are looking for teachers. If you can handle being the only foreigner, then you can make it. I know some people that tried it and they were too isolated, and didn't last long.
Good luck. |
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Firearcher
Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Salaries & More |
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[quote="London Bridge"]We need more information from [u]you.[/u]
What is your education? Training? EFL experience? EFL qaulifications?
[quote="Firearcher"]Regarding a typical ESL Job in Vietnam:
Can someone please tell me the details for the following (On Average)
Salary Range:
Hours Worked Per Week
OT Rate if any
Cost of Housing? Free or not:
Pension: Yes / No
I've never worked in Vietnam and many jobs I see fail to mention these things.
Thank You[/quote]
If people ask about salary, then I think teaching is not the priority. Of course, asking about salary is important.
Over-time? We are not in the West.
Pension? This is a cash job. If there was a pension, what pension fund would it be in? The foreign teacher pension fund, administered by whom?[/quote]
I work in another country and wanted to compare Vietnam with it. I was asking for information purposes only. Of course salary is a factor but not the only one.
My qualifications are standard:
TEFL plus a 4 yr University degree. I gather that makes me an average teacher in Vietnam but I don't know.
I have heard that typical salaries are about $1200 USD monthly. |
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eddiek1syou
Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Out there
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I know non-native speaking teachers without college degrees that get paid roughly $1200 a month working part time. Unless you're lazy you should be able to manage $2000-2400 if you work at 2 schools, but there's always the shit factor of having split shifts. Or you could just work at 1 place full time.
I wouldn't say the standard qualifications are a 4-year degree and teaching certificate. The standard qualifications for a lot of schools is a.) being white b.) being a liar. Anything on top of that will better your chances of landing a job at some of the more highly regarded schools. |
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rainman1
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: African American looking for work in Vietnam |
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Hi all,
How difficult do you think it would be for me to find a job in Vietnam as a minority? |
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Green Acres
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 260
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Define "minority?"
Anglo-saxons are minorities in Vietnam, and it's pretty easy for them to get jobs.
It's a good question, and I'm not making fun, it's just that there is a relative attitude towards minorities here.
Most schools have a 3 tiered hiring policy, which means that Vietnamese nationals may earn 33% of what Caucasians earn. Some other minorities here, such as Filipinos may earn 50% of what Caucasians earn. One of the schools that I have worked for has employed an African-American male (kudos for them!) and he earns the same as Caucasians (I believe). Even though he is a great teacher, some students will not accept him as their teacher, which decreases his hours sometimes. I know of another school that has employed a gentleman from Nigeria, and I also know a Mexican and a Brazilian who work in the ESL field in HCMC.
Feel free to PM if you have any more questions. |
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