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John, why have you worked in KSA so long?
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Kipling



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Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCTBA wrote
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Et tu, Kipling, et tu? An' all this time I thought that I was "Da Dude"!

I hearby Rename you as;

NCTBTD= Never Ceased To Be The DUDE

So it is written......so shall it be!!!
Sir, Mr K Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

PS, I still hanker after the barrel in the 'good old days when you lived beyond the rings of Uranus....
Aagh beyond the rings of Uranus........Far Out Maannn!!!.............FarOut!
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Other John, veiledsentiments, and NCTBA,
Jeez, Louise - you make TWO lousy typos and they never let you forget it
(I've got to admit, though, that last one was a beaut.)

Yes, Other John, you have a Netlog page, and regarding the Latin, well, as a altar boy, I was saying "Mea Culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa" before you even made an appearance in this vale of tears (that was WAY back, when the Mass was still in Latin.)

And NCTBA, regarding your avatar and the mentioned "crosshairs", the individual that seems to be in them is not I - and just when are you planning on squeezing the trigger and declaring:

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Regards,
John
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And as for that ridiculous fabrication about the $2.99 Walmart sneakers, well, it's inaccuracies such as that that make you so untrustworthy a source.
They cost $2.89 and were from K-Mart.
But you did buy them second-hand. There are some extravagances that are just too much.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Stephen,
I prefer the term "pre-owned", and buying shoes that way makes excellent sense. You're spared the sometimes agonizing process of "breaking the footwear in."
Just for the record, I am not now and have never been a member of the infamous "500 Club."
And to pre-empt the obvious rejoinder:

If the shoe fits . . . .

Regards,
John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kipling wrote:
NCTBA wrote
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Et tu, Kipling, et tu? An' all this time I thought that I was "Da Dude"!

I hearby Rename you as;

NCTBTD= Never Ceased To Be The DUDE

So it is written......so shall it be!!!

I've been warned by certain parties not to create any sockpuppets. I said I wouldn't, so I'll hafta keep my word. So, NCTBA it shall remain.Laughing

But, I do appreciate the elevation in status. I'll bask in the warm glow of John anyday! Very Happy


Sir, Mr K Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

PS, I still hanker after the barrel in the 'good old days when you lived beyond the rings of Uranus....
Aagh beyond the rings of Uranus........Far Out Maannn!!!.............FarOut!

My apologies but the barrel has been downed for the last time. As any long-time poster will recall, I have a certain penchant for 'ol Homer! Cool

An' yes, my former domicile was "FarOut", but I was getting dizzy out there in Sector 9 from breathing too much helium. Life's much better here in NorthEast Pakistan...on the hunt...always, on the hunt... Twisted Evil




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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir, your MISSION IS NOT ACCOMPLISHED! Sheikh Osama is not in the Valley of Swat, he is enjoying his cricket match in the valley of TORA BORA, where the field is outside the range of Uncle Sam's satellites! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been warned by certain parties not to create any sockpuppets


You laugh....My husband actually used his sock as a puppet in a Korean elementary school class. The same class where he had to sing jingle bells, making up the words,as it was not a song he learned as a child.

Do you think marionettes would be acceptable?
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Kipling



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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Santa Fe Trail Reply with quote

Mr JS, Sir, in reference to the OP, you seem to be a well traveled man of the world who is now enjoying the autumn of his life in the domicile of his choice and only occasionally striding out onto the veranda to look at the cowpokes driving the long horns along the Santa Fe trail and wait for the stagecoach to deliver the mail. I wonder, Sir, when we will have the pleasure of your complete and unabridged memoirs? I am certain they would be well received by all here and the wider public in general.
What would be the title of your memoirs??? It would have to succinctly capture everything you have experienced whilst capturing the general public's attention....erm.....in general. I once had a colleague who published an account of his experiences in the fledgling Czech Republic entitled " An Incredible Liking for Beans" ( Vanity Press; $1.29) which was incredibly successful, well with his immediate family anyway. I wonder Mr JS, what the title of your memoirs would be or indeed of any experienced veteran treading these boards.
Your servant Sir. Mr K
PS Technically the semi-colon after Vanity Press should be a Colon but as I received a semi-colon as an unwanted gift I thought I'd use it up. Hope you don't mind.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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wspeachy



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: John, why have you worked in KSA so long? Reply with quote

Evan2009 wrote:
This is primarily intended for John however others who have worked for a long time in KSA are invited to respond.

John, first of all I want to thank you for your posts which I find informed and thoughtful. If I understand correctly, you've been in Saudi Arabia for twenty odd years. Is that right? What motivated you to stay for so long?


I won't answer for John, whom I've known as a colleague and friend for twenty-two years, but that same number of years, I've also been in the Kingdom.

First, I found that it was a safe place to raise a family. Second, because my skills were needed in more than one institution, the Kingdom provided a kind of job assurance, if not institutional security. That is, that while one usually signs one or two year contracts that may not be renewed, there have been--and especially are now--plenty of other places in the Kingdom to find work if one has qualifications and experience. The salaries have finally risen to become respectable again, if not attractive although I think that in these hard times in the West, any regular salary is attractive. Smile Finally, the salary quoted is a take-home salary. There is no income tax or sales tax, only low customs duties that you do not notice.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear wspeachy,
Hey there - good to hear from you. Very good post, I'd say. There are some on here who just can't understand how ANYONE could find the Kingdom tolerable, never mind actually like it.
Now, I find that odd because while I liked it (you don't stay that long in a place if you don't - unless you're really masochistic or love money more than you probably should), I also don't find it hard to see why some would regard it differently.
What really puzzles me, though, is folks who dislike/hate it and yet remain there year after year. That's something I can't fathom.

Dear Kipling,
A title for my memoirs - well, I don't think I have sufficient vanity to go the Vanity Press route, and I doubt the story of my life would be of much, if any, interest to either a reputable publisher or the reading audience, so don't expect to see such a volume in your local book store anytime soon.
But making up a title might be fun. How about -

1. I Never Thought I'd Live So Long

2. I Should Have Known Better

3. Always Outnumbered; Never Outpunned

4. I Ran From Iran

5. If I'd Known Back Then, I'd Still Do It All Again

If I think of any more, I'll let you know.

Regards,
John
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wspeachy



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
There are some on here who just can't understand how ANYONE could find the Kingdom tolerable, never mind actually like it. Now, I find that odd because while I liked it (you don't stay that long in a place if you don't - unless you're really masochistic or love money more than you probably should), I also don't find it hard to see why some would regard it differently. What really puzzles me, though, is folks who dislike/hate it and yet remain there year after year. That's something I can't fathom.


I like contrasts and annual migrations. I love the sea, where I am in Turkey in most vacations and holidays. Then it's nice to return to the dry desert, the khaki and red dunes, and the black, white, and brown camels. When it rains here--not many days a year--my students long to run out under the clouds and romp in the water that washes away the sand and the dust. It also washes away the depression that comes with the constant, daily solar radiation. In a few days in the sunshine, the deserts turn green and flowers bloom.

For me it's the opposite. I spent my early childhood in the golden hills of California. Then my father took the family to Portland, Oregon, where nine months of the year it's gray and wet. Now that's depressing! I'm always happy under the sun, I tell them, and while I can appreciate their joy when the rains finally come, for me it's a brief return to depression, even if the wet, when arrives, comes in a spectacle of thunderstorms and sudden floods. It's ironic that more people now die of drowning in the desert than they do of thirst.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, sir...are a poet...but possibly, don't know it? What is it about you I.P.A. dudes???

NCTBA
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear NCTBA,

We real cool. We
Teach school. We

Know rhyme. We
Be prime. We

Like sand. We
Be tanned. We

Hate rain . We
Abstain.

You, Amazed - you
Seem dazed

Regards,
John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, too kool for school, bud! Very Happy Cool

NCTBA
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Ran from Iran??? You can't have THAT title. It's mine... all MINE.... Laughing
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