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		lennon146
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Vaughan Systems | 
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				| Hi I'm currently applying to Vaughan Systems for a position in Spain. So far, they seem like a reputable, professional company but has anybody here worked for them or heard much about them? Thanks for any help. | 
			 
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		ak_tesl
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Hi Lennon146
 
 
I am currently teaching in Turkey and contemplating moving to Spain in the near future.   One institute I would like to apply to is Vaughan because of their link to a university.   Did you end up taking their two-week training course?   How was it?   Where you given a job offer?   How do you like working for the company?   Thanks for any help.   Regards. | 
			 
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		Pauleddy
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: VS | 
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				Do a search on this and other tefl boards.
 
 
There have been complaints about VS.
 
 
I saw someone who said they could earn 3000e a month with them but later admitted that there was a snag with them. They have their own system and you need to fit in. maybe u have to pay for yr course? or maybe they work you hard? Whatever it is, I remember something odd about them.
 
 
I don't know the full dirt but I have seen some bad stuff about them.
 
 
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		ak_tesl
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Thanks Pauleddy for your reply.
 
 
I would definitely do my homework before accepting any offers.   I may stay put in Turkey for a while, with the economic situation and all . . .
 
 
It will be interesting to see what happens to the TEFL job market in September/October
 
 
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		bobesol
 
 
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				| Unless I am mistaken I believe Vaughan Systems prefer teachers without any previous experience so they can be taught to teach in the companie's unique way. I think all teachers have to go through a 3 or 4 week learning course at the end of which they start work. | 
			 
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		DMcK
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The only "complaint" I know of is that you will burn out working for them longer than a couple of academic years. 
 
 
On the other hand I know people who work for them and make good money for long hours with no complaints.
 
 
You have to do a two week training course; the first being an assessment of your ability to fit into their agenda. If you don't make the cut after the first week you get canned. I suppose you'd have to be some kind of numpty not to pass it though.
 
 
They work 35 hours a week which is decent, given that lots of teachers here work 20 hours with 15-20 hours travelling on top. As far as I am aware, most of the classes are in the same place so not nearly as much travelling and not as many cancellations, which are a problem here with the amount of one on one classes on offer.
 
 
My advice for anyone coming to Madrid: take as many hours as you can get with as few of them as possible being one on ones. Vaughan seems to fit that criteria pretty well. | 
			 
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		kathym
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:23 am    Post subject: Vaughn | 
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				They seem to be a reputable established company.  They don't offer work currently to non EU passport holders though, so I was just wondering about the comments I saw about working for them, have anyone from the US actually worked with them before?
 
 
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Kathy. | 
			 
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		DMcK
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Unless I am mistaken I believe Vaughan Systems prefer teachers without any previous experience so they can be taught to teach in the companie's unique way. I think all teachers have to go through a 3 or 4 week learning course at the end of which they start work. | 
	 
 
 
 
All said though, their method is pretty wank and Vaughan seems like a smarmy *beep* that thinks he is god's gift to TEFL. 
 
 
I fart in his general direction. | 
			 
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		kathym
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Vaughntown | 
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				Hello All,
 
 
No one has answered my question as to if  they know, does this company hires non EU passport holders, i.e people from the US??  
 
 
I am seeing responses but is anyone from the US?
 
 
Thank you so much!
 
Kathy. | 
			 
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		DMcK
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		El_Che
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Vaughntown | 
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	  Hello All,
 
 
No one has answered my question as to if  they know, does this company hires non EU passport holders, i.e people from the US??  
 
 
I am seeing responses but is anyone from the US?
 
 
Thank you so much!
 
Kathy. | 
	 
 
 
 
their website answers this question and more ........ | 
			 
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		brasilstu
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| does anyone know if they are hiring now? their website is still talking about the january 09 intake. | 
			 
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		Santiago Matamoros
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Mr Vaughan | 
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				| I lived in Madrid for 9 months and I spoke to several English teachers who have lived there for 30 years. One of them said Vaughan was a creep and another told me of someone who had been sacked without notice. The consensus seems to be that the company lacks integrity. | 
			 
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