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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the yellow brick road wrote:
The only Japanese in your interview was reading some sentences? Do you remember what they were? They didn't bring you into the interview and hammer you keigo or expect you to use son keigo? My keigo is still weak and I don't think it will improve much before I apply. It's at the level where I can understand what I hear but forget about using it. I am wondering if I am over estimating what they expect for my Japanese level.


It will depend on your interviewers & how closely they follow the rules. There were new guidelines for interviews this year and CIR interviews were supposed to be conducted entirely in Japanese, covering reading, writing, listening, speaking, a written translation exercise, and a simultaneous translation exercise (J->E only). I know some of the consulates broke it up into a general interview in E&J and then a Japanese interview.

You're expected to be functionally fluent. You're not sounding like you are.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cvmurrieta wrote:
Since most likely none of them are going to Japan as ALTs but as CIRs,


IIRC there's usually ~30-45 Korean ALTs in Japan at any given point, including the Korean JET ALTs. Cool
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the yellow brick road wrote:
By the way, do you think an online TESOL certificate will give my resume/application a nice boost or do you think it may boost me in the wrong direction (they will prefer me for an ALT rather than CIR?)


An online TESOL qualification is worthless for JET. Don't waste your money.
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
the yellow brick road wrote:
By the way, do you think an online TESOL certificate will give my resume/application a nice boost or do you think it may boost me in the wrong direction (they will prefer me for an ALT rather than CIR?)


An online TESOL qualification is worthless for JET. Don't waste your money.


I had a buddy that got a classroom TESOL qualification through San Diego State. He had been made an alternate in 2005 prior to getting this. When he re-applied in 2007 with this cert, he was shortlisted and sent off to Oita Prefecture.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cvmurrieta wrote:
G Cthulhu wrote:
the yellow brick road wrote:
By the way, do you think an online TESOL certificate will give my resume/application a nice boost or do you think it may boost me in the wrong direction (they will prefer me for an ALT rather than CIR?)


An online TESOL qualification is worthless for JET. Don't waste your money.


I had a buddy that got a classroom TESOL qualification through San Diego State. He had been made an alternate in 2005 prior to getting this. When he re-applied in 2007 with this cert, he was shortlisted and sent off to Oita Prefecture.


I fail to see how that is relevant. Smile

He has my condolences about Oita. Wink
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:


I fail to see how that is relevant. Smile

He has my condolences about Oita. Wink


I was in a roundabout way telling the OP to take a classroom TESOL course in order to boost his qualifications for JET.
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the yellow brick road



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I don't really have the money nor time to take a classroom certification program. An online certificate is cheap and if it boosts me a little during the hiring phase then it's worth it. I don't plan on being a teacher so I could care less about teaching and certification. If I did plan to be a teacher long term then of course I would consider a classroom program.
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the yellow brick road wrote:
Well, I don't really have the money nor time to take a classroom certification program. An online certificate is cheap and if it boosts me a little during the hiring phase then it's worth it. I don't plan on being a teacher so I could care less about teaching and certification. If I did plan to be a teacher long term then of course I would consider a classroom program.


Are you taking the online course for EPIK, SMOE, or GEPIK? I know at least EPIK will pay more if you are taking an online or classroom course.
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the yellow brick road



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't work for a government program in Korea. I work for a private company 12pm-5pm and I am paid higher salary than GEPIK or SMOE, and I work in a public school Wink

I can still raise my salary here but the catch is your need an online certificate before you sign your contract.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the breakdown of the JET Programme CIR intake for 2009-2010 (as of June 12, 2009); these are the expected numbers at Tokyo Post-Arrival Orientation A (end of July) and Tokyo Post-Arrival Orientation B (beginning of August). I am serving as an Orientation Assistant and have received these numbers in my Orientation Assistant Preparation Manual.

56 total new CIRs:

8 from Australia
3 from Canada
5 from France
2 from Germany
1 from Ireland
4 from New Zealand
6 from the UK
27 from the US

Needless to say, this number is much lower than the 159 CIRs who arrived in 2008. The application process is indeed becoming more and more competitive.

Regards,
fat_chris
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat_chris wrote:
Here is the breakdown of the JET Programme CIR intake for 2009-2010 (as of June 12, 2009); these are the expected numbers at Tokyo Post-Arrival Orientation A (end of July) and Tokyo Post-Arrival Orientation B (beginning of August). I am serving as an Orientation Assistant and have received these numbers in my Orientation Assistant Preparation Manual.

56 total new CIRs:

8 from Australia
3 from Canada
5 from France
2 from Germany
1 from Ireland
4 from New Zealand
6 from the UK
27 from the US

Needless to say, this number is much lower than the 159 CIRs who arrived in 2008. The application process is indeed becoming more and more competitive.

Regards,
fat_chris


Only 56????????? Shocked Geez, Louise!!!! I feel much more fortunate to be part of the 159 that arrived in 2008 even if it was only for one year Smile
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the yellow brick road



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did less apply?
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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the yellow brick road wrote:
Did less apply?


My speculation (and remember that it is onl just that) is that local governments and other international organizations needed fewer CIRs this year due to budget cuts.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cvmurrieta wrote:
My speculation (and remember that it is only just that) is that local governments and other international organizations needed fewer CIRs this year due to budget cuts.


I didn't receive any figures for the number of applications received by JET for the 2009-2010 term; I have only received this summer's intake numbers.

Likewise, I second cvmurrieta's speculation. I presume that fewer CIRs were needed/hired for 2009-2010. Couple this with the possibility that more CIRs re-contracted for 2009-2010 than for previous years. Finally, I shall also speculate that the number of applications to JET for ALT and CIR positions has not decreased from past years.

Regards,
fat_chris
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mintxleaf



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is kind of random, but I was wondering if anyone knows if CIR positions are also available through Interac or other places aside from JET? And where do we look / how to apply to those CIR positions?

Thanks!
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