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3000 rmb for a first timer?
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chip2000



Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: 3000 rmb for a first timer? Reply with quote

Hi all.

I have been offered a position in Guangzhou at a government school. The working hours are 20 per week and includes accommodation. I'm a recent graduate from a UK university with 3 months teaching experience (in computer skills not English) and no tefl cert. This is only supposed to be a working gap year for me.

Now I know there are more qualified and experienced teachers so I don't want to come across as greedy especially considering my background. Also I have found that many schools in major cities require some teaching experience. As I want to be based in a major city such as Guangzhou is 3000 rmb per month a good offer for a first timer?

A copy of the contract can be found here:

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=d82bh5k_4cf5tsmf7&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en

Many thanks.
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deputamadre



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3000 RMB is shit. Plain and simple.
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Hansen



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Location: central China

PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3000 is as stated above, especially with 20 hours. Numerous other issues, such as cost of living to consider. If your just passing time for a year, might not be too bad.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be making 5.50 USD an hour on a generous conversion (could get more at McDonald's). Also, you would be in one of the most expensive places in China. 8,000 RMB is low there. Take a great big pass on this, and maybe let them know that it is horrible to be offering such crap.
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CJD



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3,000 for 20 hours is not acceptable
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's way too low
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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a pretty bad deal mate ... and I note the accomodation is dorm accom too ... That is also far from ideal. I couldnt see any reason to accept this contract.

Some of the more desirable locations may have lower salaries, some jobs in the more remote places may also offer lower salaries. Working in big noisy dirty cities like GZ should pay much more .. cost of living can be much higher too.
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Zorak03



Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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Location: Guangzhou, Guangdong, China

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No! That is nonsense, last year I came to GZ with no teaching experience, only a 2-year-degree and no TEFL. I still managed to get a job paying 12000rmb a month (including housing allowance). Reject this offer.
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A'Moo



Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take this offer, you will be making the person who hired you very rich, for he will be pocketing the 4000-10000y differential (the amount allocated to hire a foreign teacher)....
Out of respect for others here, and yourself, reject this pittance...
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chip2000



Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the all the replies. looks like i won't be taking this offer!

Zorak03 wrote:
No! That is nonsense, last year I came to GZ with no teaching experience, only a 2-year-degree and no TEFL. I still managed to get a job paying 12000rmb a month (including housing allowance). Reject this offer.


That is quite reassuring. Would you recommend me just going out there and offering my services to schools to avoid recruiters? I understand I may have to do a visa run before accepting a job. Will it be more difficult for me because I am Chinese? I understand a lot of Cantonese although my speaking is quite poor.

I read that I may have more luck if I were to look for work just before the academic year starts. Is this the case in GZ and are teachers in short supply there?
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CJD



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chip2000 wrote:


I read that I may have more luck if I were to look for work just before the academic year starts.

I think the opposite is true. The longer you wait, the greater the chances will be that schools have already filled their quota for foreign teachers.
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Hansen



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poster mentioned, incidentally, that he/she is Chinese. That could very well account for the low salary offer.

As a foreigner, I'm very familar with the Chinese position that if I won't pay an exorbitant price, they won't sell to me.

It could be the same for a Chinese "foreigner." If he/she declines the low salary--no job. As a matter of principle, they may oppose paying "one of their own" fairly.
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dragon777



Joined: 05 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it! You can do so much better dude.
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kungfucowboy83



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even if your nationality is chinese it's not so great.
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sharpe88



Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm asian and don't take jobs that pay less than whities Razz
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