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Marquess



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is hardly a deal.

Government organisations such as universities do illegal things all the time. Being associated with Bell is meaningless.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

However I think Bell gives a month and three weeks holiday. The two Eids- two weeks and then another week in the second semester and then a month paid on the 10 month of the contract. They also pay a second airfare to the sum of 500 pounds.

Correct me if I am wrong. I work for someone else and yes two months paid holiday at the end of the contract is the norm for direct hire.

Better luck with these agencies.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is hardly a deal.


It may not be a good deal but it is still a deal, one which literally hundreds of people have accepted.


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Government organisations such as universities do illegal things all the time


Sure - but usually 'unofficially' and off the record. I doubt a major government operator would have written contracts which blatantly break the law.


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The two Eids- two weeks and then another week in the second semester and then a month paid on the 10 month of the contract.


Eid holidays are government mandated (if only for 3-4 days) and do not count towards annual leave totals.

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Correct me if I am wrong. I work for someone else and yes two months paid holiday at the end of the contract is the norm for direct hire.


Some places give 60 days paid leave, others 45.
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wanna_teach



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone had any recent information on Kaplan Aspect.

I have an interview with them tomorrow. Has anyone had an interview with them? Does anyone know what kind of questions they ask?

Not sure if I would take the position, since it is a new project and what has been said on this thread makes sense ( complete disorganization the first couple of years), but it doesn't hurt to see what they say.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has Hyman Kaplan extended his operations to KSA ? Congratulations !
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Marquess



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are now advertising on TEFL.com for a recruitment coordinator for the summer to "help them get teachers for Saudi Arabia." They are so low-grade.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup! If you advertise on TEFL.com, you are, indeed, low-grade!

NCTBA
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: 11 month contract Reply with quote

Unfortunately 11 month contracts are quite common in Saudi as its the minimum legal requirement under which westerners can be employed. However on the up-side under Saudi law there are a lot of additional religious holidays, which, by the King's decree must be observed. Eid, Hajd to name but two. I feel more important issues are accommodation (shared, single or an allowance), return flights and how many and hours to be 'worked'. Universities often state 20 working hours a week when, in reality, time on campus amounts to far more.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear bollidarking,

" . . . Eid, Hajd to name but two. . ."

There are others??? Darn, was I ever cheated.

Actually, they're both Eids: Eid ul-Fitr and Eid al- Adha

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John
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCTBA

Excuse my ignorance, but why are jobs advertised on tefl.com low-grade?

More importantly, where are the good Saudi/Middle East jobs advertised?
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Marquess



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you cite the source for your assertion that 11 month contracts are legal? As for common I have never heard of such things except for very recently and only with Kaplan and Bell.
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InterRick



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Could it be one of those where you work for 11 months and the 12th is paid vacation?
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Marquess



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

InterRick wrote:
^ Could it be one of those where you work for 11 months and the 12th is paid vacation?


No, since that is called a one year contract.

It is a "see how cheap we can get TEFLers for" illegal 11 month "contract." The 12th month is an unpaid (you cannot really call it a contract) time.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gungediana wrote:
NCTBA

Excuse my ignorance, but why are jobs advertised on tefl.com low-grade?


Yer not ignorant! They're low-grade 'cuz they are...

gungediana wrote:
More importantly, where are the good Saudi/Middle East jobs advertised?



Happier hunting grounds can be found at The Cronicle of Higher Education and www.higheredjobs.com.


NCTBA
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or even right here on Dave's, which tends to have ESL/EFL jobs at all levels. Cool Those two sources advertise rather different job levels. The first has more of the entry level jobs, whereas the second tends to have more tertiary jobs.... and not just ESL/EFL.

The difference to me is that I have only very rarely seen a job on the first that I would apply to, but I have seen some here and in the Higher Education sites.

VS
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