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San Francisco Bay area - where are the ESL jobs?

 
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moonshine



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: San Francisco Bay area - where are the ESL jobs? Reply with quote
I've been here 3 months now and have applied to numerous tutor ads on Craig's List - most to no avail - the only nibbles have been science-related as my degree is a B.S. - but I'm beginning to wonder if something about my most recent experience teaching ESL in K (since 2003) is hurting me?

am I just being paranoid?

I thought it'd be a snap to find some tutoring gigs here - I'm working on my MFA, and have said so on my resume.

so what's up? I know the market it tight but this seems very odd - the gigs are posted regularly on Craig's so they're out there -

any suggestions?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear moonshine,

I hear the UNIVERSITY OF BUEA, South West Region, Republic of Cameroon
is looking for a few good people. You MUST BE a man or a woman, but I assume you'd qualify.
Why don't you send off your CV?

Regards,
John Laughing
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moonshine



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ok, now it's official, you must simply be a TROLL
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear moonshine,
Darn, you figured it out. Yup, I'm a TROLL, and it took 5,496 posts before someone bright enough figured it out.
Congratulation on your perspicacity.
Regards,
John Smile
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anyway



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've seen several ads on 'spokenskills' in the last few months...
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Chancellor



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: San Francisco Bay area - where are the ESL jobs? Reply with quote
moonshine wrote:
I've been here 3 months now and have applied to numerous tutor ads on Craig's List - most to no avail - the only nibbles have been science-related as my degree is a B.S. - but I'm beginning to wonder if something about my most recent experience teaching ESL in K (since 2003) is hurting me?

am I just being paranoid?

I thought it'd be a snap to find some tutoring gigs here - I'm working on my MFA, and have said so on my resume.

so what's up? I know the market it tight but this seems very odd - the gigs are posted regularly on Craig's so they're out there -

any suggestions?
So you have a science-related Bachelor of Science degree and you've been teaching ESL in Korea since 2003.

Why on Earth would you assume there are ESL jobs in the Thanfranthithco Bay area?

Go get a master's in TESL or applied linguistics and try to get into one of the relatively small number of university ESL jobs. You said you're already teaching "ESL in K" (don't expect to be taken seriously if you can't be bothered to spell things out) so don't you already have a teaching job? Why do you now want to get into tutoring (not that there are generally a lot of people wanting an ESL tutor, many of them just go sign up for real ESL classes)?

I know that Claremont isn't in the San Francisco area but Oxford Seminars is looking for instructors (http://tesljobs.com/viewjob.php?id_job=12461).

St. Giles in San Francisco has a posting for a CELTA trainer (http://tesljobs.com/viewjob.php?id_job=2331).

Then there's University of San Francisco (http://sanfrancisco.universitytutor.com/English%20%28ESL%29).

Here's a private firm that might be hiring (http://www.mcelroytutoring.com/tutors.php?subject=239).

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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
most recent experience teaching ESL in K (since 2003) is hurting me?

It's true that teaching ESL in Korea isn't always a huge plus when seeking jobs in North America. The expectations of students, and accepted classroom methodology and approaches can be very different from what's expected in western classrooms. Further, your experience teaching monolingual classes will be very different from the multilingual classes found when teaching ESL as versus EFL.

You may want to check with the funded classes for immigrants in the area. Students are very often offered free/extremely cheap language training, assuming that they qualify for immigrant status. This is seriousl competition for teachers who actually need to make money....

The ESL 'tourist' (private language school) business is down, primarily due to the economic crisis.

Jobs are just tight everywhere.

Good luck.
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moonshine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: San Francisco Bay area - where are the ESL jobs? Reply with quote
Chancellor wrote:
moonshine wrote:
I've been here 3 months now and have applied to numerous tutor ads on Craig's List - most to no avail - the only nibbles have been science-related as my degree is a B.S. - but I'm beginning to wonder if something about my most recent experience teaching ESL in K (since 2003) is hurting me?

am I just being paranoid?

I thought it'd be a snap to find some tutoring gigs here - I'm working on my MFA, and have said so on my resume.

so what's up? I know the market it tight but this seems very odd - the gigs are posted regularly on Craig's so they're out there -

any suggestions?
So you have a science-related Bachelor of Science degree and you've been teaching ESL in Korea since 2003.

Why on Earth would you assume there are ESL jobs in the Thanfranthithco Bay area?

Go get a master's in TESL or applied linguistics and try to get into one of the relatively small number of university ESL jobs. You said you're already teaching "ESL in K" (don't expect to be taken seriously if you can't be bothered to spell things out) so don't you already have a teaching job? Why do you now want to get into tutoring (not that there are generally a lot of people wanting an ESL tutor, many of them just go sign up for real ESL classes)?

I know that Claremont isn't in the San Francisco area but Oxford Seminars is looking for instructors (http://tesljobs.com/viewjob.php?id_job=12461).

St. Giles in San Francisco has a posting for a CELTA trainer (http://tesljobs.com/viewjob.php?id_job=2331).

Then there's University of San Francisco (http://sanfrancisco.universitytutor.com/English%20%28ESL%29).

Here's a private firm that might be hiring (http://www.mcelroytutoring.com/tutors.php?subject=239).



you gave several possible links yet the tone of your writing was nothing less than caustic - I'm not sure I understand why - further, you obviously didn't appear to read my post clearly since I said I'm here in the Bay area and working on an MFA - why would I leave that and go get a TESL masters?

anyway I do appreciate the info -
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moonshine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
spiral78 wrote:
most recent experience teaching ESL in K (since 2003) is hurting me?

It's true that teaching ESL in Korea isn't always a huge plus when seeking jobs in North America. The expectations of students, and accepted classroom methodology and approaches can be very different from what's expected in western classrooms. Further, your experience teaching monolingual classes will be very different from the multilingual classes found when teaching ESL as versus EFL.

You may want to check with the funded classes for immigrants in the area. Students are very often offered free/extremely cheap language training, assuming that they qualify for immigrant status. This is seriousl competition for teachers who actually need to make money....

The ESL 'tourist' (private language school) business is down, primarily due to the economic crisis.

Jobs are just tight everywhere.

Good luck.



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