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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear NCTBA,

Seasonal Affective Disorder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder

I'm glad you're not in S.A.D condition.

Regards,
John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Jack London still is an approved writer with excellent socialist credentials. Yet Dumas' Three Musketeers or even Conan Doyle's Holmes seem to have the edge, despite writing novels supporting or set in reactionary societies. I haven't figures that out yet. Dunno about the suicide rate here or seasonal affective depression or disorder thingies. If you include massive alcohol-related deaths as suicide, then it might be considered high here too, and that's not including the teachers.
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Yes, Jack London still is an approved writer with excellent socialist credentials. Yet Dumas' Three Musketeers or even Conan Doyle's Holmes seem to have the edge, despite writing novels supporting or set in reactionary societies. I haven't figures that out yet. Dunno about the suicide rate here or seasonal affective depression or disorder thingies. If you include massive alcohol-related deaths as suicide, then it might be considered high here too, and that's not including the teachers.


Why don't you speak Russian? Can you at least read the alphabet?

A friend of mine worked in Russia for a year; he met a guy there (TEFLer) that after 12 years there couldn't speak more than a sentence AND couldn't read the alphabet... Shocked
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who says I don't?
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Who says I don't?


I thought I asked you and you said no? Eh? Did I misunderstand? How good is your Russian?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nowhere near as good as your German, I'd hazzard. Although I could be fibbing and be a local after all....In any case, I have never heard of anyone here for even 12 weeks who couldn't read the alphabet. Why?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Deicide,

"How good is your Russian?"

The only good Russian is a . . . ."

Ooops, forgot - the Cold War's over.

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John
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Deicide,

"How good is your Russian?"

The only good Russian is a . . . ."

Ooops, forgot - the Cold War's over.

Regards,
John


I don't know Russian but if I were living there for a long period of time I would do my best to acquire it as fast as possible.
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Nowhere near as good as your German, I'd hazzard. Although I could be fibbing and be a local after all....In any case, I have never heard of anyone here for even 12 weeks who couldn't read the alphabet. Why?


English is so boring. I like complex inflection and aspect...
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Deicide,

"I don't know Russian but if I were living there for a long period of time I would do my best to acquire it as fast as possible."

Would this be an example of, "Fools Russian . . . . . . . ?"

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John
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Deicide,

"I don't know Russian but if I were living there for a long period of time I would do my best to acquire it as fast as possible."

Would this be an example of, "Fools Russian . . . . . . . ?"

Regards,
John


Are you taking the piss? Confused
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Deicide,

Good thing I'm up on British English. Of COURSE, I'm taking the piss.

Why, I would kill my dear departed mother for the chance to make a bad pun. In fact I'd kill her even before she bore me (and she not only bore me, she frequently bored me as well, bless her.)

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John
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moneyoriented



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:


Ooops, forgot - the Cold War's over.

Regards,
John


Ha! Good one.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I will have to say this about ASia in general. YES; the English on signs, t shirts, etc is laughable, but how many of us could write something in perfect Chinese, Korean, Japanese?
After >6 years of studies in JHS, HS, and college, I think many of us would be able to do it far better than the "Engrish" we see pass muster on T-shirts and signs, menus, etc..

That's the amount of time spent by Japanese, anyway, but their motivation and style of education negates any real sense of learning English.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski, that kind of supports my ideas about teachers who have taught in Asia, and how their experience transfers to North America or Europe. Students here are more demanding, have more practical daily need to communicate in English (and don't want to be laughed at), and simply are more sophisticated in that they very often are functional in multiple languages (Europe, I mean, not NA on this point).

I like my occasional group of Asian students very much in terms of their being hardworking and overt wishes to please, but underneath this veneer, I wonder to what degree they are really interested in the USE of other languages....

Of course, the same criticism could even more easily be made of many native English speakers!
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