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almost there
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 Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: Salary question for newbie teacher |
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Hello everyone,
I'm currently a student about to graduate with an MA in TESL. I'm wondering what can I expect to earn in Saudi Arabia based on my qualifications. Here is some info about me:
MA in TESL
BA in English
Graduate certificate in Instructional Technology
State certified to teach secondary English (6-12)
State certified to teack k-12 Spanish
I have reading ability in Arabic and some comprehension (working on that).
I'm a US citizen and native speaker of English.
I'm female & Muslim (not sure if that matters)
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skullytefldude
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| Expect to get paid around $3,000 us dollar per month plus free housing and healthcare. Now is a good time to apply so go for it. |
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tacomaboywa
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
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Location: The Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| skullytefldude wrote: |
| Expect to get paid around $3,000 us dollar per month plus free housing and healthcare. Now is a good time to apply so go for it. |
Do not accept anything less than SR 12,000 ($3,200) per month. Make sure you avoid recruiters/agencies. Come on an Employment Visa. Some other benefits that are pretty standard are:
Medical
Airfare (annually)
Visa Expenses
Monthly Travel Allowance
Housing Allowance (around SR18,000 to SR35,000 annually)
OR Housing Provided
Be sure to negotiate these details as much as possible prior to arriving in Saudi Arabia.
Best of luck!
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Cleopatra
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Agree with the last poster. Do not accept less than SR12000 (and try to get more than that) plus all of the benefits he mentions.
Also, my strong advice is that you do not come here on a 'business' visa, no matter what some posters tell you. |
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norwalkesl
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That is a VERY strong CV for ME work. Being Muslim and a woman you will be able to easily get UNI positions teaching women. Go for it and apply!
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lcanupp1964
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| Hi, You should apply to King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah. I was offered 16,172 SR per month and 17,000 SR a year for housing. In addition, I will get 9,000 SR. for setting up my apt. I don't have a MA, but I do have over eight years of ESL teaching exp, so that might even out to be around the same pay. The university is expanding the English program and they need to hire at least 20-30 teachers (both male and female) for next sem. (Feb. 20). Good luck! |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| 17,000 SR a year for housing. In addition, I will get 9,000 SR. for setting up my apt. |
17,000SR is quite low for housing allowance, so you may well have to dig into your salary to rent a decent apartment. Also, given that most Saudi apartments are completely unfurnished, lacking even AC units, 9000SR won't go very far.
Still, not a bad deal in other ways, particularly as you don't have an MA. |
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Stephen Jones
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| You don't give experience. |
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almost there
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone!
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Housing Allowance (around SR18,000 to SR35,000 annually)
OR Housing Provided |
Would I have a choice? I would prefer to work at a university, but I would rather receive the housing allowance. I'll be going there with my husband and children, and I don't suppose the housing they provide accommodate families, or does it? My husband is Saudi, and if we live in Jeddah, we'll already have housing.
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| Also, my strong advice is that you do not come here on a 'business' visa, no matter what some posters tell you. |
Should I go on an employment visa and not mention my family, then? After all, my husband and children have both American and Saudi passports. Would mentioning my family hurt my chances of finding a job?
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| You should apply to King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah. I was offered 16,172 SR per month and 17,000 SR a year for housing. |
I might apply there. Do you have any idea what they might offer to someone with only one year experience?
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| You don't give experience. |
When I go there, I will either have only one semester of teaching in a university setting as part of my program. My program includes a one semester practicum of supervised teaching and a one semester internship where I teach unsupervised and get paid for it. |
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Citizenkane
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Should I go on an employment visa |
You don't get a choice as to what sort of visa you go on - you take what the employer offers you. Like other posters, I don't think you should touch any job which does not provide a proper work visa.
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| After all, my husband and children have both American and Saudi passports. Would mentioning my family hurt my chances of finding a job? |
if your husband is Saudi, why not get him to sponsor you? That would do away with the need for any visas. |
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almost there
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| if your husband is Saudi, why not get him to sponsor you? That would do away with the need for any visas. |
We haven't registered our marriage with the Saudi govt. yet. I've been to Saudi Arabia once with a family visa that was good for only about two months. Going on an employment visa may be faster than waiting on our paperwork. We're working on that now. Also, I think I read on here that if one is hired as a local hire, the housing and other benefits such as tickets are out. Is that correct? |
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Citizenkane
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| Also, I think I read on here that if one is hired as a local hire, the housing and other benefits such as tickets are out. Is that correct? |
True, true. Then again, on a local hire you have more flexibility - you can change jobs without having to go through the whole visa process or ask for (and maybe not get) an NOC.
Of course, if you plan to go on a work visa and want the company to provide benefits for your family, you'll have to provide them with the full names and nationalities of all your dependents. Since, as I'm sure you'll know, your husband and kids will be considered Saudi, it may be the case that they will not be eligible for benefits as the 'dependents' of a foreign worker. This is obviously something your hubsand needs to research. |
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scot47
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| ...................................it all depends, but generally you will not get expatriate benefits if you are married to a Saudi. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| If you only have one year's experience you will find yourself at the bottom of the payscale for Saudi Universities. |
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almost there
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| If you only have one year's experience you will find yourself at the bottom of the payscale for Saudi Universities. |
The bottom of the payscale being SR 12,000 for a university, right? |
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