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The Hungry Yeti
Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 25 Location: Spartanburg, SC
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Still trying to confirm whether ALTs have to pay for their own lodging during training.
I was told that if we got the provisional employment offer we had the job. The thing is they don't know where each new alt will be teaching until they (the ALT) interview with the school board or whatever they are called in Japan. Just going by what I was told when I asked about it in the interview. |
It does look like ALts are responsible for paying for their lodgings during orientation. From Heart:
"Thank you for your email.
We will book a room for you at 4,000yen per night for the hotel near the Company. And ALTs will be responsible for these cost. " |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I would really like to talk to someone now. I don't like this set up at all. The employee (potential employee) has to pay out way too much just to work for them. They don't reimburse you for the plane ticket either, which seems beyond unfair. That provisional employee offer seems to be a crock too. I want to hear back from some Heart employees on this and how it played out. Why bring in so many people, especially during a recession, just to have to send some of them back home?
*Sighs* Why can't I find a halfway decent job whether it's here or overseas? |
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 39 Location: East Sea Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| If it's reimbursed airfare you want, try Korea or China. |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| If it's reimbursed airfare you want, try Korea or China. |
I don't mind not being reimbursed if the ticket was one-way, but we're supposed to buy a round-trip ticket. If we get the job, what do we do with the "return" ticket? I guess it just depends on which airline you buy it through. Can probably get a deal, or, like Glenski mentioned, I think it was, to just use it further down the road to visit home. |
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Just Another Guy
Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Airfare
Virtually 0% of the companies in Japan pay for airfare anymore. That said Korea they will pay for that and your housing and probably China too. Japan just has a more developed ELT market and because an employee can skip out of a job with their new shiny visa (the employer doesn't own your visa) they have learned not to trust.
ssjup81
There's a huge amount of trust that goes in to getting employment with a dispatch in Japan these days. You pretty much pay all the costs to get there and set up and until you get a steady stream of pay checks you don't really know if you made the right decision.
In your case, decide whether you trust them enough to go over and give it a shot. You can also apply to the other dispatches to cover your bases. Make sure you get a COE from them if you can. This will protect you if things go belly up as you will be able to get a visa and work right away.
Finally, know this, ignorance is bliss. I have done a lot of research on ELT and to be honest the more I know the more worried I get. I think you have to keep yourself intentionally ignorant a little. Otherwise, you will find yourself over thinking things, worrying and perhaps chickening out. Now I am not referring to total ignorance; just know when to stop, ok. Trust me things will go smoother. (You may want to PM PaulH or Glenski or someone in the know about Japan and just ask their general opinion of Japan and the job market - they are in the know about these things and what they say is pretty much on the money to some extent.) |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Airfare
Virtually 0% of the companies in Japan pay for airfare anymore. That said Korea they will pay for that and your housing and probably China too. Japan just has a more developed ELT market and because an employee can skip out of a job with their new shiny visa (the employer doesn't own your visa) they have learned not to trust. |
I've come across some ads where they reimburse travel expenses after working for the full contract, or whatever, but yeah, they are far and in between, probably.
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ssjup81
There's a huge amount of trust that goes in to getting employment with a dispatch in Japan these days. You pretty much pay all the costs to get there and set up and until you get a steady stream of pay checks you don't really know if you made the right decision. |
I think that's exactly what I've been doing. I've been told by those around me to "cool it" and to "go with the flow" like I usually do, but can't help but want to know everything in advancd in this case. ^^
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| In your case, decide whether you trust them enough to go over and give it a shot. You can also apply to the other dispatches to cover your bases. Make sure you get a COE from them if you can. This will protect you if things go belly up as you will be able to get a visa and work right away. |
As soon as I get an answer to one more question in particular, I'll probably go along with it, but I think I might have already received the answer, and will probably go along with it.
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| Finally, know this, ignorance is bliss. I have done a lot of research on ELT and to be honest the more I know the more worried I get. I think you have to keep yourself intentionally ignorant a little. Otherwise, you will find yourself over thinking things, worrying and perhaps chickening out. Now I am not referring to total ignorance; just know when to stop, ok. Trust me things will go smoother. (You may want to PM PaulH or Glenski or someone in the know about Japan and just ask their general opinion of Japan and the job market - they are in the know about these things and what they say is pretty much on the money to some extent.) |
Yeah, like I said, been definitely over-thinking. lol |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Hm, just thought of another question. Do Recruiters help with getting you set up with banks? I don't have one here, as I used a Credit Union, so I know that's not internationally recognized. Which banks are? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Citibank is. But some employers have their own selected banks and may not let you use what you want. |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| I totally forgot about Citibank. Thanks for the information. I should take a look at the handbook again to see if it mentioned anything about banking. |
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