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How hard is it to get a job in Japan teaching?
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guitarhero



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject: How hard is it to get a job in Japan teaching? Reply with quote

I have a B.Ed, but no tesol. I'm just wandering how hard it is to get a job and what type a job a teacher with no experience could expect, such as classroom teacher or tutor.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This used to be in the FAQs, but they are gone now.

You have pretty much a generic degree. At least it's not in geology or microbiology, but most entry level jobs don't care.

Entry level means ALT (JET Program or dispatch company) or eikaiwa instructor.

How hard? That's sort of difficult to measure. When and where precisely did you want to work? Sometimes those are factors.

We're in a recession now, and schools are merging or closing, and the birthrate is declining. Couple to that the demise of the largest eikaiwa (NOVA) in Nov. 2007 putting 5000 teachers out of work, and there is a lot of competition out there.

Are you willing to come here with US$4000-5000 in your pocket and look around, or will you stay home and search online? That also makes a huge difference.
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Hoser



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how much of an effect the Nova closure still has if any? Surely anyone who didn't get a new job shortly thereafter (thank you lord) has starved by now Wink If anything I wonder if the Nova closure actually lessened the competition. After all there is no longer a ginormous company which brings over teachers whose qualifcations are that they're breathing and who then quit Nova after getting the easy visa.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is, that's 5,000 high turnover positions which are no longer available to people arriving- that had to be a decent percentage of the overall number of eikaiwa jobs available in Japan at the time. If you still have the same numbers of people arriving, the pickings are going to be much slimmer now.

In the late 90s when I first arrived in Japan, anyone could get a job teaching English (with a very few dire exceptions), but that doesn't seem to be the case any more. Something's changed, and I think Nova's collapse had a lot to do with it. Not because the ex-Nova teachers are still looking for jobs, but because most of the jobs they had are now gone.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hoser wrote:
I wonder how much of an effect the Nova closure still has if any?


Nova's closure not only drove away teachers, it also drove away students.

If someone wants a job and has a visa, it's not too hard to find one. I know of places (ALT places) in Kansai where it's not hard at all to get a job, if one has a visa. If someone is a good teacher who has skills and qualifications, it's not overly hard to get part-time work either. Last year my boss was trying to hire a replacement teacher (we had 5 and one quit). She hadn't been in for a week and resumes and cover letters were piled on her desk when I was in grading exams. I had a look at a few of them (just the ones that were on top). The quality was awful and I could immediately understand why she didn't hire anyone.

I've worked for several business English companies and about every other month I get an e-mail or phone call from one of them asking if I can or if I know anyone who can teach some intensive class on short notice.

One of my friends (who was an ALT for 5 years and worked at Nova for 1 year) is trying to find a job (he has his own eikaiwa, but it's been losing money). I've been trying to help him (by sending him whatever intensive classes and full-time jobs I can find), but he's not really willing to change his schedule unless it's full time; but he also doesn't want to be an ALT again. It's a bit frustrating as jobs are out there, but he's not willing.

As the OP has a B. Ed, he probably has a slight edge over other applicants.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inflames wrote:
If someone wants a job and has a visa, it's not too hard to find one.
But the OP doesn't have a visa.

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I know of places (ALT places) in Kansai where it's not hard at all to get a job, if one has a visa.
and, I know of other places where it is tough to find candidates. So, as I wrote earlier, it depends on a lot of factors, including location.

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If someone is a good teacher who has skills and qualifications, it's not overly hard to get part-time work either.
Perhaps, but they would need a visa first. The OP can't even take on PT work until he has a visa.

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I've worked for several business English companies and about every other month I get an e-mail or phone call from one of them asking if I can or if I know anyone who can teach some intensive class on short notice.
But you have a visa and experience working for them! Plus, a lot (most?) of such places prefer people with some work experience in businesses like their clients. Doesn't sound like the OP has that (best guess).

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One of my friends (who was an ALT for 5 years and worked at Nova for 1 year) is trying to find a job (he has his own eikaiwa, but it's been losing money). I've been trying to help him (by sending him whatever intensive classes and full-time jobs I can find), but he's not really willing to change his schedule unless it's full time; but he also doesn't want to be an ALT again. It's a bit frustrating as jobs are out there, but he's not willing.
Yup, just like I wrote above. Can't be too overly picky these days.

guitarhero,
When and where would you like to work?
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guitarhero



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prefer to be in a rural setting or a smaller city. Tokyo looks too overwhelming for me. I really like Hokkaido. I want to go where there is snow.

Right now, I am not really sure what I am going to do. I am definitely staying home for the summer to earn money. I would like to leave around September or October. I really don't care where in the world I go... well, maybe I am not ready for a developing country - possibly in the future. I like Japan because I enjoy the culture and understand that there would already be a quality system in place for foreign teachers because of the popularity of the country in the past. I am also looking in to Korea. Because of this I plan on applying for jobs over the Internet rather than going to these countries. I plan on doing some more research and then applying in a month or so. I do have several years doing volunteer work in ESL in addition to my full-term student teaching that I got with my B.Ed.

Thank you for your responses.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guitarhero wrote:
I would prefer to be in a rural setting or a smaller city. Tokyo looks too overwhelming for me. I really like Hokkaido. I want to go where there is snow.
Sounds like JET programme (you missed the 2010 deadline), or you would be a good candidate for any outfit that has a lot of branches because many people prefer the bigger cities.

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I would like to leave around September or October.
That could be a problem, as there aren't that many job openings here during those months. September maybe more than October.

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I like Japan because I enjoy the culture and understand that there would already be a quality system in place for foreign teachers because of the popularity of the country in the past.
"Quality system"??????????
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