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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Threads critical of schools in LOS permitted on Dave's Reply with quote

While other supposedly teacher friendly sites in Thailand do not permit threads with negative comments naming schools or EFL teacher training programs?

What do you think?
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pest2



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Why does Dave's permit threads critical of schools in LO Reply with quote

Ajarn Miguk wrote:
While other supposedly teacher friendly sites in Thailand do not permit threads with negative comments naming schools or EFL teacher training programs?

What do you think?



Whats wrong with threads with negative comments about schools or teacher training programs? It's a great way to be warned.....
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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree so why don't some of the more popular teacher sites in LOS?
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misteradventure



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: critical posts Reply with quote

Free exchange of information helps everyone. If you are a business owner surrounded by people who only say positive things and don't know that your customer service is crap, sites which host critical comments can provide the information to improve the school or business...

In other words, by hosting 'negative' comments, this site is providing a positive service to those owners who care enough to improve their businesses and correct deficiencies.
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Gypsy King



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many (if not most) schools in Thailand would prefer ESL teachers teach as a volunteer and not on paid wages at all. Criticism of those schools is necessary as without it they would accept our labor as a non-paid ESL teacher in the LOS. Unfortunately it is necessary for most of us as teachers to criticize them as we all need to recieve some form of compensation for our work. Smile
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Placebo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gypsy King wrote:
Many (if not most) schools in Thailand would prefer ESL teachers teach as a volunteer and not on paid wages at all.


MOD EDIT The majority of schools are not looking for volunteers.

The reason why Dave's permits critical posts about schools is because this site is not sponsored by schools. the "other popular teacher site" is heavily sponsored by a variety of Thai schools. As they make there money through advertisement and also through job ads from these schools, they don't want negative publicity. The "other popular teacher site" is a business while Dave's is mainly a forum.

Also, Dave's is not limited to Thailand, so this site could care less about negative publicity among Thai schools.
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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Placebo wrote:
Gypsy King wrote:
Many (if not most) schools in Thailand would prefer ESL teachers teach as a volunteer and not on paid wages at all.


MOD EDIT The majority of schools are not looking for volunteers.

The reason why Dave's permits critical posts about schools is because this site is not sponsored by schools. the "other popular teacher site" is heavily sponsored by a variety of Thai schools. As they make there money through advertisement and also through job ads from these schools, they don't want negative publicity. The "other popular teacher site" is a business while Dave's is mainly a forum.

Also, Dave's is not limited to Thailand, so this site could care less about negative publicity among Thai schools.




Dave's is not sponsored by schools?


http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/

http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/


Dave's is not a business?

The way I read it there is a fee paid for every advertisement posted here.

I don't understand your reasoning.

There are messages posted here critical of schools and employers all around the world. Why should a site in Thailand not be willing to permit the same thing? Only because it is located in Thailand? Rolling Eyes
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Placebo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ajarn Miguk wrote:




Dave's is not sponsored by schools?


http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/

http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/


Dave's is not a business?

The way I read it there is a fee paid for every advertisement posted here.

I don't understand your reasoning.

There are messages posted here critical of schools and employers all around the world. Why should a site in Thailand not be willing to permit the same thing? Only because it is located in Thailand? Rolling Eyes


You posted links to the the job boards which are job ads. And yes, you are right they are paid for, but the "popular teaching website" that the OP is refering to has banners of multiple schools which sponsor the site itself.

Not my reasoning, but their reasoning is that they will lose those sponsors if they permit naming and shaming of these schools.

Dave's has sponsored links to TEFL/TESOL providers. I'm sure that if you you would spread some negative publicity about them they would reconsider their sponsored link on Dave's.
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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxford Seminars is one of those outfits with sponsored links on Dave's and with little or no effort I found a thread that contains negative comments regarding OS. It has obviously not caused the effect you seem to feel will occur from negative comments since they are still advertising here:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=70896&highlight=oxford+seminars

It looks like there are others and not just for Oxford Seminars.

BTW, the OP does not single out an individual site in Thailand. It reads "sites," not "site."

It seems to me that some of the information that fi