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corinl
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: Advice Needed-Japan,tourist visa's,documents,accomodation... |
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Hi, I've read lots of the great information on here, but am still undecided as to my best option right now for work.
Recently GEOS in Japan fell, so many teachers experienced in Japan are in the market looking. There are not many jobs advertised on the forums now - when I looked back in jan-mar there were 3 a day!
I have recently completed a CELTA and done about 2 months teaching in New Zealand, so I'm still new to the game!
I'm a British Citizen so have a UK passport, as well as NZ residency.
There don't appear to be many jobs in Japan advertised at the moment and I read a long article by an experienced teacher on the "Jobs in Japan" website where he recommends just flying to japan on a tourist visa and then sorting work out when you're there...said immigration don't really care as long as you have onward ticket and don't say you are planning to work...then if you get caught he said most of the time its no biggie from what he's seen in ten years teaching..
What are people recommending at the moment?
I heard in Japan that it's not easy finding accomodation, and so with no job to go to, maybe its even harder to find a place to live! I worked in Switzerland and also landlords there don't really like non-swiss!
I am also wondering where would be best to place myself if I didn't have a job pre-arranged - Tokyo is big, many opportunities, but maybe expensive if no work and running around all over this big city trying to arrange things.
I have seen jobs advertised in Fukuoka, Hiroshima and other areas - would basing myself here for a couple of months to find work be easier...and could I find an apartment here more easily?
I heard about 'key money'...do you always need to pay this if not sponsered by a school, or can you just find a houseshare or flatshare (like at uni) to start with and then look later on ?
Oh one more question. I'm getting degree transcripts signed and sealed and sent from u.k. to n.z. ready to leave. Also I'm getting police check from the U.K sent over - do I need this 'apostilled' in the u.k. before being sent over or does Japanese immigration not require this apostilling to be done?
Thanks in advance for your help with my many questions! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: Re: Advice Needed-Japan,tourist visa's,documents,accomodatio |
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Hi, I've read lots of the great information on here, but am still undecided as to my best option right now for work.
Recently GEOS in Japan fell, so many teachers experienced in Japan are in the market looking. There are not many jobs advertised on the forums now - when I looked back in jan-mar there were 3 a day! |
You are seeing a normal trend. Feb/March is the peak season because the academic year, even for most eikaiwas, starts in April. After that, it is perfectly normal for the number of ads to fall. It has nothing to do with GEOS teachers on the loose.
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There don't appear to be many jobs in Japan advertised at the moment and I read a long article by an experienced teacher on the "Jobs in Japan" website where he recommends just flying to japan on a tourist visa and then sorting work out when you're there...said immigration don't really care as long as you have onward ticket and don't say you are planning to work...then if you get caught he said most of the time its no biggie from what he's seen in ten years teaching..
What are people recommending at the moment? |
You have essentially 2 choices: stay home and hunt for the dozen or so employers that recruit from abroad, or come here with money in your pocket at the right time and search for the far greater number of opportunities. Key words are "right time". You missed that, so you have to take what you can get until the next peak.
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| I heard in Japan that it's not easy finding accomodation |
Not exactly. Accommodation is easy to find if you are willing to accept a guest house. Renting your own apartment is hard without an employer to serve as guarantor. A few places are allowing this, but not many. Depends where you go, too.
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| I am also wondering where would be best to place myself if I didn't have a job pre-arranged - Tokyo is big, many opportunities, but maybe expensive if no work and running around all over this big city trying to arrange things. |
This gets asked every week. Look at Japan from a climate standpoint and from rural vs. urban. If you pinpoint a region based on climate first, then decide whether you want rural or urban. Bear in mind that, as you know, the market is flooded and jobs are competitive right now, but that rural areas tend to NOT get as many applicants requesting a slot.
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| I heard about 'key money'...do you always need to pay this if not sponsered by a school, or can you just find a houseshare or flatshare (like at uni) to start with and then look later on ? |
You do not always need to pay key money. In fact, I'm going to guess that employers who already have housing lined up from previous teachers will not charge you that because it has already been paid. It's case by case, but I think that is largely the situation. Some people do the sharing routine.
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| Oh one more question. I'm getting degree transcripts signed and sealed and sent from u.k. to n.z. ready to leave. Also I'm getting police check from the U.K sent over - do I need this 'apostilled' in the u.k. before being sent over or does Japanese immigration not require this apostilling to be done? |
If it looks certified and official, I'd say no. |
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corinl
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
So as I've missed the peak hiring time, what's the likelyhood of finding a job if I come over now on a tourist visa - I have no experience working in Japan.
Would you say there is a good chance to find work now in Japan or is it better to wait until start of next year...which also means I have to slug it out to find a job year and competition is tough in N.Z. at the moment.
I want to work with young adults or at the after school (2pm to 10pm kind of thing) really, but to get a start I'll look at anything with school kids as well...I applied to JET the other week and am waiting to hear back.
I notice Gaba seems to advertise a lot online but I'm not sure exactly what they are offering from the adverts and their website, it doesn't look a good deal...not guaranteed hours and the working conditions I'm sceptical of.
Basically I am a confident enough person in my own skills and ability to try anything once. I have worked in many jobs and worked out how to get what I want out of a position...but that's in the uk or nz...I don't speak Japanese and apart from having a girlfriend who went back in March, I really know little about the work culture and way of hiring there.
Another option is to head up to Auckland and study Japanese for 6 months, then try heading over in January...would that help? or are these all just small advantages?
Thanks again. |
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corinl
Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Oh and a further question - part time work. My girlfriend is at uni and is signed up with a couple of agencies to teach kids for an hour a time in the evenings.
She seems to get quite a lot of this work, but I think they like the fact she can teach English by speaking Japanese, if you know what I mean.
It's not focussing so much on English speaking but helping the students with the grammar side of things and reading/writing. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I applied to JET the other week and am waiting to hear back.
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Now unless your definition of "the other week" means you sent of the full application pack along with the forms avaliable on their site only during the application period before the end of November last year I can't see how you managed that.
JET application forms for UK passport holders are only avaliable from September-ish and the deadline the last Friday in November and then interviews are late winter/early spring (Jan-March-ish) for positions the following summer. So interviews are finished now and I heard reports of results a while back now.
Otherwise, there is only one application intake per year and anything sent outside the application period goes straight in the bin without a glance.
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You might want to re-read your last post. You said you had a further question but then didn't type one.
I'm going to hazard a guess that you are going to ask whether it's possible to find something similar in the way of part time work as your gf.
Part-time employers cannot sponser your visa in your first year. You need a full time employer to do that initially. Of course you can take on as much PT work as you can manage in addition to your FT job as long as it an activity allowed under your visa type.
In your second year, if you can line up enough part-time work to satisfy immigration that you can earn a sustainable, sufficient amount each month to live off, then you will be allowed to self sponser and need not have a FT job. |
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corinl
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Sorry I have been looking at quite a lot this week and had brain overload - it wasn't Jet, as you said that involves quite a lot!
It was an application for the AEON selection which takes place soon.
The question I meant to ask was with regard to my gf working part-time, you have pre-empted it, but you misunderstand me. I am not talking about working under visa in this way, rather the opportunity to work on a tourist visa doing part-time.
You say this is not possible, I know this 'officially' is not possible, but I've been reading that half the Japanese job market is 'unofficial' work by people on tourist visas funding their stay until such time as they get a sponsor to give them full-time paid work and sort their work visa.
Do you think there is a lot of work out there for people on tourists visas or have you experienced difficulty yourself or with others trying to get work with no working visa? |
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