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hst19
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 Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: Is this a good salary in China with potential for saving? |
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Hello folks!
Please give your opinions about this salary offering in China...
Do you think a salary of 18000 RMB (with free apartment) is a good salary for a foreign A level teacher? The place of work could be Shanghai, Beijing, Urumqi or Tianjin.
Is it possible to save a decent amount with this kind of salary if someone lives with a family of 2 or 3 members in these cities? The lifestyle should be normal (comfortable but not too luxurious), with self-cooking and no household employees or drivers.
Any rough estimates about how much it is possible to save in these circumstances?
Thanks in advance for your opinions! |
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mnguy29
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| I have been to shanghai many times. I know people who have worked there. You should be quite comfortable on this salary there. |
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Gilka
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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A) What do you consider a decent amount of money to save each month?
B) Are there any children in the family who would be attending international schools? |
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hst19
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Gilka wrote: |
A) What do you consider a decent amount of money to save each month?
B) Are there any children in the family who would be attending international schools? |
Thanks for the reply, Gilka!
I was thinking about 7000 RMB should be a minimum amount that can be saved. But 50% of the salary or more should be nice.
I'm trying to find this info for a friend who has to finance his son's college education (in China or somewhere else) , so it is important for him to save as much as possible from his salary. But there are no other children, so there won't be additional school fees. |
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SandyG20
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| Which school is offering 18000 rmb? Most offer a max of 10000 and the norm is more like 5000. |
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Zero
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a good salary in China with potential for saving |
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| hst19 wrote: |
Hello folks!
Please give your opinions about this salary offering in China...
Do you think a salary of 18000 RMB (with free apartment) is a good salary for a foreign A level teacher? The place of work could be Shanghai, Beijing, Urumqi or Tianjin.
Is it possible to save a decent amount with this kind of salary if someone lives with a family of 2 or 3 members in these cities? The lifestyle should be normal (comfortable but not too luxurious), with self-cooking and no household employees or drivers.
Any rough estimates about how much it is possible to save in these circumstances?
Thanks in advance for your opinions! |
I wouldn't think you could save anything. Look at the numbers:
-3,000 rent
-1,200 food
-250 utilities
-250 transportation
-5,000 world's oldest profession
-5,000 massages
-2,000 "haircuts"
-1,300 alcohol
Total: 18,000
You won't have anything left! |
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hst19
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a good salary in China with potential for saving |
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| Zero wrote: |
| hst19 wrote: |
Hello folks!
Please give your opinions about this salary offering in China...
Do you think a salary of 18000 RMB (with free apartment) is a good salary for a foreign A level teacher? The place of work could be Shanghai, Beijing, Urumqi or Tianjin.
Is it possible to save a decent amount with this kind of salary if someone lives with a family of 2 or 3 members in these cities? The lifestyle should be normal (comfortable but not too luxurious), with self-cooking and no household employees or drivers.
Any rough estimates about how much it is possible to save in these circumstances?
Thanks in advance for your opinions! |
I wouldn't think you could save anything. Look at the numbers:
-3,000 rent
-1,200 food
-250 utilities
-250 transportation
-5,000 world's oldest profession
-5,000 massages
-2,000 "haircuts"
-1,300 alcohol
Total: 18,000
You won't have anything left! |
-5,000 world's oldest profession
-5,000 massages
-2,000 "haircuts"
-1,300 alcohol
What point are you trying to make exactly? |
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Zero
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| My point is that the cost of living is not as low in China as some think. You can refer to my above breakdown of the numbers to see how quickly 18,000 may get spent in a large city. Costs may be lower in a smaller city. |
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a good salary in China with potential for saving |
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[quote="Zero"]
| hst19 wrote: |
Hello folks!
I wouldn't think you could save anything. Look at the numbers:
-3,000 rent
-1,200 food
-250 utilities
-250 transportation
-5,000 world's oldest profession
-5,000 massages
-2,000 "haircuts"
-1,300 alcohol
_________
13,300
_________
Total: 18,000
So you need 13,300 rmb for the necessities and the rest you would just squander?
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Gilka
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| hst19 wrote: |
I was thinking about 7000 RMB should be a minimum amount that can be saved. But 50% of the salary or more should be nice.
I'm trying to find this info for a friend who has to finance his son's college education (in China or somewhere else) , so it is important for him to save as much as possible from his salary. But there are no other children, so there won't be additional school fees. |
It would be very easy to save 50% of the salary, but also easy to spend it all. It kind of depends on whether he tends to go to the gym and read in his spare time or go to western restaurants and clubs. It is very easy to spend 1000RMB in one night in Shanghai, no chickens or anything. I've done it before, but I was just visiting. |
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Zero
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a good salary in China with potential for saving |
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[quote="LanGuTou"]
| Zero wrote: |
| hst19 wrote: |
Hello folks!
I wouldn't think you could save anything. Look at the numbers:
-3,000 rent
-1,200 food
-250 utilities
-250 transportation
-5,000 world's oldest profession
-5,000 massages
-2,000 "haircuts"
-1,300 alcohol
_________
13,300
_________
Total: 18,000
So you need 13,300 rmb for the necessities and the rest you would just squander?
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And my figures assume a non-smoker. Factor in a couple hundred a month for tobacco, and you could easily be in the hole every month. (So to speak.) |
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Menino80
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Is this a good salary in China with potential for saving |
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| Zero wrote: |
| hst19 wrote: |
Hello folks!
Please give your opinions about this salary offering in China...
Do you think a salary of 18000 RMB (with free apartment) is a good salary for a foreign A level teacher? The place of work could be Shanghai, Beijing, Urumqi or Tianjin.
Is it possible to save a decent amount with this kind of salary if someone lives with a family of 2 or 3 members in these cities? The lifestyle should be normal (comfortable but not too luxurious), with self-cooking and no household employees or drivers.
Any rough estimates about how much it is possible to save in these circumstances?
Thanks in advance for your opinions! |
I wouldn't think you could save anything. Look at the numbers:
-3,000 rent
-1,200 food
-250 utilities
-250 transportation
-5,000 world's oldest profession
-5,000 massages
-2,000 "haircuts"
-1,300 alcohol
Total: 18,000
You won't have anything left! |
Why do you even post? You're just being unhelpful for the hell of it. |
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Zero
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| And you think I'm wrong? That guys in China making good coin aren't spending it exactly as I said? Then you've hardly scratched the surface of China. I'm not saying all go that way, or even a majority, but the 18k attracts a LOT more attention locally than the 4,500 or 8,000 or whatever that most teachers on this board are making each month. A lot of people do go to China with the best of intentions. But I think everyone on this board could tell you a story of a fellow (or five or six) they know who has gone down exactly the road I described, except I probably underestimated the alcohol expenditures. It is not a possibility to be ignored. The muse can be mighty, mighty tempting. |
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Menino80
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| I think budgeting 12k per month for paid sex is trolling. |
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Greg 09
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
| I think budgeting 12k per month for paid sex is trolling. |
OTOH, 12K per month for paid sex might just slow your avatar down to an acceptable pace. 
I value Zero's posts very highly, there's not much else that can make me smile at 6:00 AM. Beside that, he makes the excellent point that budgeting is in the eye of the beholder. |
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