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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither will open for me... not the tinyrul nor copy/paste of the original...

VS
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear veiledsentiments,

Funny - the shortened one worked for me the first and second time I tried it, but not the third time.

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John
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holoholo girl



Joined: 16 Jun 2010
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Location: Mesopotamia

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: tiny URL: poof its gone... Reply with quote

VS, John & all

1st- thanks John for the tiny URL link. I see a plentiful future for its usage.

Yes I couldn't get the 2nd w/shortened URL open either but as I C&P'd it from JSTOR from my uni email & library (which generally is frowned upon as it is not supposed to be publicly displayed) perhaps this is the reason for the link to disappear? I was more so wanting to get out the name of the academic journal since it was from within the KSA. I'll have to look again at another time as I can't remember the name.
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saharastars



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How was the interview? Very Happy
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holoholo girl



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: interview Reply with quote

Saharastars

I think your question was geared towards me. I think it went well. It went on for about 75 minutes so I (think) consider this a good sign. It was certainly pleasant enough. I asked when I could expect to hear back from them either way and was told in a few weeks. I was told to email any more questions I had and I already did and received a reply. I was hoping to have my email forwarded to one of the female staff who would email me back, but the appropriate questions were relayed to someone from the female faculty and then delivered back to me by my interviewer.

Can I pm you Saharastars?
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Cuffs



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(thread meanders way off topic yet again...)
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I know, right? If teachers can't follow simple instructions and stay on topic, how do they expect their students to do the same?!
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instructions? There are instructions? Shocked

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holoholo girl



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS & all interested -
I found the abstract from the vanishing tiny URL post in my spam folder- oh but that is off topic I suppose ...


Resource Academic Search Premier(EBSCO)
Title Camels and Arabian baliya and other forms of sacrifice: a review of archaeological and literary evidence.
Author King, Geoffrey
Add.Author / Editor King, Geoffrey
Citation Arabian Archaeology & Epigraphy May2009, Vol. 20 Issue 1, p81-93
Year 2009
Abstract The paper surveys the recent archaeological information for the baliya immolation tradition of pre-Islamic Arabia, whereby a camel or other valued animal was slaughtered to accompany a person of status in death so that they had an animal to ride or to maintain their status in the afterlife. In contrast to the dhibh immolation, which is prescribed in the Holy Qur'an in memory of the sacrifice of the Prophet Ibrahim, the baliya is forbidden in Islam. Unlike the
dhibh immolation, the baliya sacrifice was interred whole and provides precise archaeological information about the circumstances of its slaughter and burial. Information about such immolations derives largely from excavations in southern and eastern Arabia. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR]
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would seem to be meandering back onto topic... Laughing

Many ancient peoples sacrificed in this way... but it would seem to be a much bigger "sacrifice" in a desert culture with only a small number of large livestock... especially something as important as a camel.

VS
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holoholo girl



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like johnslat was spot on when in an earlier post he wrote,

Quote:
Well, you'll likely use a motor vehicle after death, too - unless you plan on walking to your final resting place.
Wink
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear holoholo girl,

But let's all remember: Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Regards,
John
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holoholo girl wrote:
It looks like johnslat was spot on when in an earlier post he wrote,

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Well, you'll likely use a motor vehicle after death, too - unless you plan on walking to your final resting place.
Wink

Yes, I was going to be cremated, but John gave me the idea that I should take it with me and be buried in my car. But, that isn't even original... Laughing

VS
(as we meander back off the topic... sorry Trap...)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear veiledsentiments

Why not combine the two: cremation and car burial? Of course, it would have to be an older model car since the newer ones (actually, since about 2000, I think) come without ashtrays.

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John
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tannhauser



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Location: Middle East

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Jawan Tomb / Jubail Church Reply with quote

Jawan tomb I think is near Safwa/Qatif oasis:

http://www.outintheblue.com/jawan_chamber_tomb.htm

Jubail church - There is a sign by the fence around it that says no trespass:

http://www.aina.org/ata/20080828165925.htm
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