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Bell/Obeikan at KSU--latest crap
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Grendal



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
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Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to spew forth some of my own observations at the risk of appearing like a troll.

My wife is a near native speaker and has lived in Canada for ten years. She is a graduate of METU an all English unıversity in Ankara. Aka ODT� in Turkey. After arriving in 2000 as an immigrant to Canada she immediately enrolled in ESL classes. She was evaluated as intermediate after 16 years from her graduation date. She then completed her ESL to the end of the programme and passed her TOEFL wıth a good enough score to be accepted at The Michener Institute of Medical Sciences in Toronto. There she studied cytotechnology or two years. Then later in 2009 she decided to get her TESOL certificate and join me in Saudia.

To get to the point I am getting at: Her students understand her lessons as if she knew what areas needed repitition and what grammar points needed to be double and triple cheked. I think that because o her previous experience as an English language learner she can connect to her students in ways that I can barely grasp.

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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendal wrote:
I would like to ... at the risk of appearing like a troll.

Versus the times you are, in actuality, a troll.
We've got NNESTs vs. NESTs threads.
Who's got the skinny on if this employer can be classified of sound repute?
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manaafa



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In some of the institutes the students grade their teachers at the end of semester. If you are liked, you can continue otherwise you will be said good bye. If you don�t let the students sleep in class, use mobile phones, put them late for being late or don�t let them leave the class before the end the class; then you are not a favourite teacher of the students. If you do, in the eyes of the management, you lack professionalism and you don�t have class control.
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manaafa wrote:
In some of the institutes

What's relevant is if KSU does.
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Grendal



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazycomputerkids wrote:
Grendal wrote:
I would like to ... at the risk of appearing like a troll.

Versus the times you are, in actuality, a troll.
We've got NNESTs vs. NESTs threads.
Who's got the skinny on if this employer can be classified of sound repute?

Well OK l am a troll. So now what? Are you and all other accusers satisfied? Would you like me to also admit to crimes I have not commited. I REALLY DON'T CARE.

Please go away if you think otherwise. I am really in no mood for confrontation. If it pleases you and everyone else that thinks likewise than I am the bad guy and I admit to all accusations against me. It's over now let it go before I start admitting that I am something that I really am.

G


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bje



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand what you are trying to say in the above post...it seems quite muddled. Shocked
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Grendal



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bje wrote:
I don't understand what you are trying to say in the above post...it seems quite muddled. Shocked


try really really hard. once you smell wood burning then stop trying.
.....to understad that is......

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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait... aren't all of you on summer break? You are supposed to be relaxing and enjoying yourselves. Why are you all so testy today?

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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Wait... aren't all of you on summer break? You are supposed to be relaxing and enjoying yourselves. Why are you all so testy today?
We're having an 8-week Summer program. I call it the Jamboree.
Though I do relax and enjoy myself at work, it's not the same as a vacation.
Who's testy? Grendal took a "risk" and I thought that was funny.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear LCK,

"Though I do relax and enjoy myself at work, it's not the same as a vacation."

Be careful. Posting sentiments such as that is likely to offend many, and sooner or later, you'll probably be labelled as an "apologist," "PC," or even
"a Saudi lover."

But according to the Sheik, at least you're not in danger of being executed:

"You vill like it here or you vill be shot!" (though I suspect a sword rather than a firearm would be used in the Kingdom.)

Regards,
John
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
...you'll probably be labelled as an "apologist," "PC," or even "a Saudi lover." ...according to the Sheik,

I recall the exchange and Don Sheik's apologies.
Criticism. You love it. There wasn't much to that thread. The topic invited disagreement and very quickly no one cared.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear LCK,

Out of context copying and pasting. You love it.

As for the Sheik's apologies, for some reason it doesn't seem to me to be completely sincere:

"Oh, why angry teacher? I apologize for the apologist PC remark of the remark. Let's say the orig. remark looked like that."

But perhaps I'm being far too thin-skinned.

Regards,
John
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, are we still on about that ?!

What you quoted of me is all you're getting. And I never said anything about "Saudi lover."
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
But perhaps I'm being far too thin-skinned.

It was a weak apology and a strong criticism. But I was surprised you felt any personal slight was leveled. I thought Sheik's criticism was hollow. He accused you of a platitude with no substantive defense of the magazine's article. But we digress...
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sheik,

Well, I'll take what I can get. Now, say three "Our Fathers," three "Hail Marys," and an "Act of Contrition."

Absolvo te. Go and sin no more (or any less.)

Regards,
John
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