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[Phil_K]

According to the Publimetro, only 2% of Mexicans master the English language, even though 47% study it for professional reasons. Interesting, as English teachers, eh?

[scot47]

Characteristic of most Spanish-speaking countries. Look at Spain and South America and you will see the samwe phenomenon. In Italy too and, to a lesser extent in France. Why are they so different from Northern Europeans ?

[thelmadatter]

Passing students who dont learn? Thats been my experience in Mexico

[mejms]

Phil_K,

Your last few threads have been more than pessimistic. I agree with you on a lot of the criticism and observations, but I think we take different perspectives. You said in one post that the best thing about your new business venture is that you won't be working with Mexicans! That's just getting hateful.

You're attacking the culture and people who have different values and a very different way of viewing life than, say, Brits. The idea of getting ahead and being a self-made man is not very Mexican. Americans for one pride themselves on their financial independence. Not so for Mexicans. I'd say that I appreciate this aspect of American culture. But there are other aspects I don't care much for. When grandma or grandpa is old, she typically goes to a nursing home or assisted living of some type. In Mexico she commonly lives with the family. Where will you rather be when you struggle to get around?

Do Mexicans value education? Not as much as we foreigners do. Do they want to learn? I think so. Instead of getting all wound up about the irresponsible, unmotivated, unable-to-commit culture here, I would take much more issue with the fly-by-night businesses that capitalize on get rich pay schemes and slogans. It sounds like you don't want to be here anyways, but if you did and hadn't decided that teaching is simply not for you, why not set out to develop something different from the typical schools (colegios, language schools, whatever) and do things the way they ought to be done? Or are you just going to keep posting about the incompetence of the students and the failure of what's out there? If you don't want to teach either because of your own personal preference or the quality of the people here, then why keep commenting on it?

By the way, saying to your class on the first day "I'm not your teacher and I'm not here to teach. You're here to learn and I'm here to help you" is way, way to brash a comment for people here. I've found that students have more respect for their teacher more here than where I'm from. Trying to make your point about motivation isn't worth putting them off and even confusing them on the first day. Having a first-rate understanding of grammar may make a very fine academic, but knowing how to communicate makes a very fine teacher.

[mejms]

[Guy Courchesne]

I wonder how the numbers compare with other countries/cultures in learning a second language. Say, Koreans learning English, Americans learning spanish, Greeks learning Mandarin...

[Phil_K]

[Phil_K]

[mejms]