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BrentBlack
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 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject: Document Certification-the next step? |
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Hello friends,
I have just received my state background check and notarized copies of my degrees. What is the next step? Do I actually need to have them notarized at the federal level? Where? Where do I send the documents fro Vietnam Embassy notarization and translation? Thanks for you help guys, I am soon on my way!
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CThomas
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Your background check should be notarized. Then
Authenticate them (all these) at the State level -- at the State of xxxxx Department of State.
Then send to US Dept. of State, Authentications unit.
Then to the Vietnamese Embassy in D.C. or the Vietnamese Consulate in San Francisco.
See the sticky thread for addresses. And do yourself a favor and don't think/believe you can cut any corners with this, no matter what you hear/read/imagine. |
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Galileo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: |
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CThomas
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:09 am Post subject: |
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True that, Galileo, but...
The US doesn't apostile for Vietnam; it will be authenticated, even at the state level. The office will know what's up. Just be sure to tell them it's for Vietnam. |
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Mushroom Druid
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True, the US does not apostille for Vietnam.
Get is "notarized." |
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BrentBlack
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CThomas
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Mushroom Druid is well-meaning but a bit tipsy, methinks. (it's night-time here). I am too, but I've just been writing an article about this and can confidently say:
Notarized at local level.
Authenticated at State level.
Authenticated at National level.
Legalized at the Embassy/Consulate.
Trust me. This is the correct terminology if you're in the US. Do it -- do all of it -- in that order. God bless and good luck. |
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Mushroom Druid
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Mushroom Druid is well-meaning but a bit tipsy, methinks. (it's night-time here). I am too, but I've just been writing an article about this and can confidently say:
Notarized at local level.
Authenticated at State level.
Authenticated at National level.
Legalized at the Embassy/Consulate.
Trust me. This is the correct terminology if you're in the US. Do it -- do all of it -- in that order. God bless and good luck. |
I was not drinking at the time of post, and I'm not drinking now.
I can only speak for myself.
I took my degree and Criminal background check to the US Embassy in Hanoi and got it "notarized." I had to pay (way too much money) for the Embassy to "verify it was true" and stamp it.
I may be wrong in the terminology. Therefore following CThomas is a good idea.
But there's also a difference. Brentblack, you are in the US, and I did this in Vietnam.
And to add to this story, I never got a work permit because my school was so screwed up. I ended up not getting the work permit, and I left Vietnam and am in a neighboring country.
Money wasted for nothing. |
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CThomas
Joined: 21 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| Mushroom Druid wrote: |
| CThomas wrote: |
| BrentBlack wrote: |
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Mushroom Druid is well-meaning but a bit tipsy, methinks. (it's night-time here). I am too, but I've just been writing an article about this and can confidently say:
Notarized at local level.
Authenticated at State level.
Authenticated at National level.
Legalized at the Embassy/Consulate.
Trust me. This is the correct terminology if you're in the US. Do it -- do all of it -- in that order. God bless and good luck. |
I was not drinking at the time of post, and I'm not drinking now.
I can only speak for myself.
I took my degree and Criminal background check to the US Embassy in Hanoi and got it "notarized." I had to pay (way too much money) for the Embassy to "verify it was true" and stamp it.
I may be wrong in the terminology. Therefore following CThomas is a good idea.
But there's also a difference. Brentblack, you are in the US, and I did this in Vietnam.
And to add to this story, I never got a work permit because my school was so screwed up. I ended up not getting the work permit, and I left Vietnam and am in a neighboring country.
Money wasted for nothing. |
I didn't mean to imply anything negative. Maybe just a quick post. Thanks for your response.
One note: from what I understand, taking this stuff to the US embassy in Hanoi to be notarized is extremely unlikely to produce a WP now. From what I've been reading, experiencing, and from what a Hanoi-based lawyer told (via proxy here in HCMC) they've clamped down on this because of fake degrees getting through. That's why I absolutely super-strongly suggest to anyone doing this to take your stuff through the Chain of Authentication, regardless of what you hear. Else, you end up biting your nails, spending lots of money, and/or shipping out. I'm currently using my good buddy FedEx to help me do this right, as I should have done before. |
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Andy123
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I was told directly by the Labor Dept. ( the ones that control the WP) that only the French can do their paperwork in country via their embassy.
Going to your embassy to get it stamped is worthless and a waste of money.
It must be done as stated below. I have had the unfortuante experience of doing the WP stuff twice. It is HELL but it can be done. Medication will help.
Don't believe the agents or schools. Trust me, "most" have no idea what they are doing or don't care. Hell, it is the new business. I have complete strangers coming up to me and trying to sell me visas and wp assistance. Even security gaurds and xe oms. How did xe oms become visa/wp experts?
The ones that do know and can get it done will cost you money and/or your soul.
There is one agent I know that will get things done. It depends on how bad you want it or how much medication you are willing to take. It can be done but be patient. |
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