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lizziebennet
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I do not have residence in any other country and for me to get residence for my husband's country will take 6 months minimum. It just took 8 with a friend.
If I want to come on as a dependent I usually would have to wait for my husband to finish his 3 months probation before his company would go through that.
I had a direct hire in Riyadh with a well known place that is not 'unscupulous' and they were going to bring me in on a business visa. So I am sorry but I don't entirely agree with that point but we can agree to disagree. |
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veiledsentiments
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The reality is that you are both correct.
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johnslat
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Dear veiledsentiments,
I was thinking the same thing. While I'd say that Cleopatra is "generally right." the reality is that every case is different (as lizziebennet's case shows,) and so each individual has to make the decision based on his/her situation.
The danger is that one "good outcome" may convince others that going tp Saudi on such visas is no problem, when for many/most it WILL present problems.
Regards,
John
P.S. Dear lizziebennet,
This puzzled me a bit:
"I do not have residence in any other country . . ."
Are you "stateless?"
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John |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The danger is that one "good outcome" may convince others that going tp Saudi on such visas is no problem, when for many/most it WILL present problems. |
That's exactly it.
I'm glad things have worked out (thus far) for lizzie, and I'm sure that many who agree to work on business visas do so without major problems.
However, the fact remains that in agreeing to work on an illegal basis you are setting yourself up for potentially a lot of grief. Yes I know, having a proper iqama is no guarantee you will be treated well, but you do at least have theoretical rights which - believe it or not - for the most part are honoured. When you come on a business visa you have precisely NO rights whatsoever.
To those who encourage others to work in KSA on an illegal basis (and I know lizzie is not one of these people), I would like to ask this question: Would you also encourage foreigners to work illegally in your own country? |
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johnslat
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Dear Cleopatra,
"Would you also encourage foreigners to work illegally in your own country?"
Only if I owned a fast-food franchise, a construction business, or an agricultural conglomerate.
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lazycomputerkids
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Would you also encourage foreigners to work illegally in your own country? |
Reasoning, Cleo has it. |
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007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Cleopatra,
"Would you also encourage foreigners to work illegally in your own country?"
Only if I owned a fast-food franchise, a construction business, or an agricultural conglomerate.
Regards,
Exploiter John |
.. Or owning a S..... (Please fill as appropriate) industry in Silicon Valley, California! lol: 
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P.S. Dear lizziebennet,
This puzzled me a bit:
"I do not have residence in any other country . . ."
Are you "stateless?" |
Well, John, I do not think South Africans are stateless!
Because they have passports, they can travel, not denied employment and, most importantly, they can get married! |
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johnslat
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Dear 007,
Then why does she write that she does not have "residence in any other country?"
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John |
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lizziebennet
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What I meant was in a country other than my home country. Earlier I said that we were separated because we are from different countries.
I am assuming Cleo thought I might have residenc in my husband's country but I do not.
This means at present my only option is to go to South Africa while my husband goes to Canada.
Lol I am not stateless although I read about a South African who tried to stay in Canada as a refugee due to the high crime rate.
I don't think they accepted that argument. |
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vorticity
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