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Dragonlady

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 720 Location: Chillinfernow, Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: Grief counseling in developing countries - does it exist? |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Grief counselor, as a position or profession, is new and pretty much western.
Grief counseling, as in helping people, because most people need help in dealing with loss, is older, and more universal.
You're right to worry about the kid and the family, and to wonder what's available to help them.
In the beginning, if they're typical, the whole family will be snowed under and traumatized, and will deal with pretty much nothing except the necessary "practical" details. (Funerals, finance, insurance if applicable) They'll also be worrying about why he was targeted, and will anyone else be; it would not be uncommon, in Latin America, for them to move at this point. If they do, he'll just stop coming to school- they wouldn't inform the school, or say goodbye.
If he sticks around, though- just keep an eye on him. Grief counselors per se may not be around, but this role is often filled by priests, nuns, older family, or friends who have been there. He may be getting what he needs already, so don't assume there's a problem (beyond the obvious) if you don't see signs.
If you do see signs that he isn't adjusting well (and I mean a ways in the future- obviously he will be unwell NOW, and for a while, no matter what) then start to look around. Your school psychologist may be a nincompoop, or not. Primping and dealing with behaviour problems may be all that she's usually required to do- doesn't mean it's all she's capable of. Feel her out, and have a chat. If it seems like you can trust her, refer the kid to her. If not, she may still know somebody more appropriate.
Other teachers may have ideas as well- many of them may have dealt with something similar before.
If appropriate, talk to the mother. Let her know you're thinking about them, and are concerned. Feel out if they have a church, a community organisation, family...there's no telling what she's like, but if you make yourself available to her, she can tell you if there's anything she needs help with.
And, while you shouldn't overeach your professional competence, be attentive to the child. Let him know he's safe with you, and can talk to you. He might, he probably won't. But knowing he can is good.
And by the way, he's an unlucky little guy, right now. BUt he's lucky to have a teacher who cares. Do the best you can, don't beat yourself up over the fact that it isn't much. Caring is good.
All the best,
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bdbarnett1
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 178 Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I second Justin's post. Here in Guatemala City, this happens more frequently that we would like to admit. Last academic year, 5 people in the extended school community were gunned down in various parts of the city. |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for those tips Justin - very thoughtful.
I was just about to write that Italy was not at all like Latin America in terms of people being targeted and gunned down, when I realised that it's not that different. Perhaps rarer, but it still happens.
But the theme of this post (dealing with student grief) is pertinent for another reason. Every summer young kids are killed on the roads around here. They go off to discos that start after midnight, drive too fast (perhaps under the influence of whatever) and every summer, another tally of fatalities. Kids I've taught, kids that are loved in the small town where I work, kids whose funerals are attended by other kids. It is absolutely heart-rending. We don't have grief counsellors either, but in the most recent case (an A+ student loved by absolutely everyone - kids, teachers and admin staff alike) the school held a memorial service - predominantly for the parents of the kid and his classmates. |
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artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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So... how does/would your school (give country) respond to any student related tragedy? |
Wow, I've certainly not experienced working in a place where people are fairly regularly gunned down but in relation to your question: yes, the high schools I've worked for* would bring in grief counsellors - for students, teachers and staff in general. This has happened in particular with students committing suicide when you have to be on the lookout for possible 'copycat' indicators in the early days following. Sometimes though if there's a resident counsellor, there'll be an 'open-door' policy over a period of time for students to visit as needed and some teachers might also be available in this way. I find it appropriate for the school to acknowledge and play a role in dealing with students coping in the aftermath of a tragedy but feel it shouldn't dominate for long. Excessively focusing on what happened can backfire. Returning asap to some sense of normalcy is crucial for kids.
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the cavalier attitude of some students |
I've sometimes found this with kids. Either these ones are so 'battle-hardened' they've become immune or sometimes kids use this as a distancing mechanism - they act tough, hard or indifferent - but it doesn't mean they're not suffering.
Yes, being approachable to the child - possibly the family - is about all you can really do. I'd follow Justin's advice about talking to other teachers and checking to see if the school psychologist is likely to be of any use if this boy returns.
(*not developing countries) |
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Dragonlady

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 720 Location: Chillinfernow, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:30 am Post subject: |
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By Monday I'll be right as rain... |
You yourself might need some form of counselling - maybe professionally or just talking to someone you can trust. It doesn't sound like your school is very supportive in general - at least when it comes to dealing with disturbing issues. In my experience that usually indicates a system that's probably already overwhelmed and can't cope with the magnitude of the problem(s). That's not to say things can't change but one person isn't going to bring that about unfortunately so you need to look after yourself, too.
All the best for next week.. |
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