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Totemic
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:14 am Post subject: No working visas for people over 65 |
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There is a rule in place that people older than 65 can not be issued a working visa.
Just wondering if any of the users here know of anyone older than 65 who has been issued a working visa?
Reason: I am trying to help out a friend. |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: Re: No working visas for people over 65 |
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| Totemic wrote: |
There is a rule in place that people older than 65 can not be issued a working visa.
Just wondering if any of the users here know of anyone older than 65 who has been issued a working visa? |
There are plenty and I've known a few of them. It'll be up to each individual school to decide whether or not they can or will hire someone over 65.
There are lots of "rules" in China but they they should only be viewed as (flexible) guidelines, much as they are in other countries. |
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Totemic
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: Re: No working visas for people over 65 |
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| 7969 wrote: |
| Totemic wrote: |
There is a rule in place that people older than 65 can not be issued a working visa.
Just wondering if any of the users here know of anyone older than 65 who has been issued a working visa? |
There are plenty and I've known a few of them. It'll be up to each individual school to decide whether or not they can or will hire someone over 65.
There are lots of "rules" in China but they they should only be viewed as (flexible) guidelines, much as they are in other countries. |
Thanks for the reply, that's a good sign.
More info: the position I am trying to help my friend with is actually with the company that I work for. His credentials are good and HR was willing to hire him, until I told them his age.
I was sent to the HR processing office to find out what loopholes we could exploit. Basically, they told me that getting a working visa for him was impossible, and that they couldn't do anything about it.
However, that seemed a typical low-level office boffin answer, so I hoped to get some actual examples on here that I could go back to to them with, in order to nudge things forward.
If anyone can provide that, it would be most appreciated.
PS: the visa would be issued from Jiangsu Province. |
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7969
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, keep working on it. But being older than 65 isn't really a good thing in any employment market. How much older than 65 is your friend? An F (business) visa might be the best he can do, which isn't always a bad thing. Plenty of people are working on F visas in China, and I did it once myself. |
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tianfuoe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Each province is going to be different as far as interpreting and following any rules. Sichuan province, for example enforces the "no working visa for over 60" rule very strictly. However, I know of a few teachers that are over 60 and still teaching here. I know one that is 72 and still teaching. It all depends on whether or not your school has the "guangxi", and how much they are willing to put forth as "gifts" to get an elder teacher an RP.
It also depends on how many teachers they have in the "que" that want to teach at their school. If they have prospective teachers that are young enough, they wont put any effort into keeping a seasoned, experienced teacher. It just isn't worth the effort or cost for them to do so. |
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chengdude
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| Another issue that bears on the topic: The older the foreign teacher, the more difficult it is for a school to get an insurance policy issued. That has been a stumbling block at my school and it's in Jiangsu. |
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Totemic
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| 7969 wrote: |
| Yeah, keep working on it. But being older than 65 isn't really a good thing in any employment market. How much older than 65 is your friend? An F (business) visa might be the best he can do, which isn't always a bad thing. Plenty of people are working on F visas in China, and I did it once myself. |
Yeah, that's true. My friend is 66, very good guy who recently completed a solid teaching career, he would do well in China, I think, and his students would benefit.
Thanks for the fast feedback everyone. I will refer him to this thread, if he wants to dig out more possibilities, I'll leave it to him to sign up and ask more questions, cheers! |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I know of one teacher who was rehired by a reasonable uni until he turned 70 and then no more.
Then again he amassed about 8 years of continuous service and was good at the job.
No degree and no ESL cert either.
He finished at the end of June 2010 and I feel things are progressively tightening.
So, not sure about new hires after 65.
Let us know how it works out. |
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