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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sasha,
No need - I am in awe of your mastery of dialectics and your supreme ability to produce the syntheses of theses and antitheses.
Hegel himself would be filled with admiration.
Regards,
John |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: اسطنبول
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Johnslat,
So now we all know that you are in awe of Sasha's mastery of dialectics , can you please tell us where your best experience was teaching abroad? |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dear contented,
Ah - but "best" is such a general term: 1. for surroundings: Indonesia (but the pay was poor); for money: Saudi Arabia (but the surroundings were bleak); for memories: Iran (but the Islamic Revolution cut short my stay there.)
So, it seems there's always a downside (or downsides) to offset the upside (or upsides.)
Except for my current teaching experience, here in Santa Fe; it's all good, but that wouldn't be the case if I needed a decent, steady income. However, at this stage in my life, I don't - so, I'm contented. Oops, sorry - you're contented
Regards,
John |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: اسطنبول
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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So, it seems there's always a downside (or downsides) to offset the upside (or upsides.) |
True, very true. Hopefully, there are more upsides than downsides.
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Except for my current teaching experience, here in Santa Fe; it's all good, but that wouldn't be the case if I needed a decent, steady income. However, at this stage in my life, I don't - so, I'm contented. Oops, sorry - you're contented |
Sufficiency leads to contentment in my case. You can be contented too.  |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sashadroogie wrote: |
Here. Now. |
Ditto. Here and now I have the best job. Pretty sure it's going to end in a year though That's ok, I'll find a good one. |
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Perilla

Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 792 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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My favourite teaching gig was South Korea, where I taught for two years on the EPIK programme '97-'99 - not because I enjoyed the teaching but because I didn't have much teaching to do. I enjoyed Korea because I liked the people, liked the food, liked the weather and had fun. |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Italy. |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: اسطنبول
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Teacher in Rome wrote: |
Italy. |
Reasons being? |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well apart from the lifestyle (which is pretty good - y'know, good food, sunny weather, nice people) students are great, and there's a lot of interesting teaching you can do. I've taught business English, teens, and uni students; done traditional classroom teaching and developed elearning programmes... a great mix and all challenging. |
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MotherF
Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1450 Location: 17�48'N 97�46'W
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I worked with some really great people (fellow foreigners) in Ecuador and had the time of my life, but teaching kind of sucked and I was living off savings. I enjoyed Japan a lot more than I thought I would, and I had more disposible income than I've ever had in my life (that was in the mid 90s). The teaching was just so-so.
But I found work satisfaction in Mexico, where I was really encouraged to develop myself as a teacher and deepen my knowledge of second language acquisition. And it continues to do so, nearly 15 years later. Outside of work, I also found love in Mexico. And I'm able to live a very comfortable life. |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Get a few years of full-time service with any private sector or government employer, and you'll get more than two weeks of vacation. A lot of people I know have trouble using all of their vacation, and end up losing some of it, or being forced to take days off before year's end. |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: اسطنبول
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Zero wrote: |
Get a few years of full-time service with any private sector or government employer, and you'll get more than two weeks of vacation. A lot of people I know have trouble using all of their vacation, and end up losing some of it, or being forced to take days off before year's end. |
Hey Zero,
Was your comment suppose to go in the 'Americans--What do you do about healthcare when you return home?' topic section? |
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Zero
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Shite. Yes. Thanks. Sorry about that. I'll repost. |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: اسطنبول
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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MotherF wrote: |
I worked with some really great people (fellow foreigners) in Ecuador and had the time of my life, but teaching kind of sucked and I was living off savings. I enjoyed Japan a lot more than I thought I would, and I had more disposible income than I've ever had in my life (that was in the mid 90s). The teaching was just so-so.
But I found work satisfaction in Mexico, where I was really encouraged to develop myself as a teacher and deepen my knowledge of second language acquisition. And it continues to do so, nearly 15 years later. Outside of work, I also found love in Mexico. And I'm able to live a very comfortable life. |
MotherF, your post got me thinking about job satisfaction which has been on my mind recently. Would you change teaching jobs if you didn't find work satisfaction in your current position despite the economic downturn? Or would you wait until the economy improved (supposing that one had a good paying job and a decent amount of savings, but the teaching was so-so)? I'm open to comments from everyone. |
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MotherF
Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1450 Location: 17�48'N 97�46'W
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Good question.
Your question made me realize that I also left out something about the hours worked. In Ecuador I taught two hours a day and was only paid for those hours, had the rest of the day to do as I pleased. In Japan, I worked 5 hours a day, taught 4 or 5 of those depending on the day. Here in Mexico I have to be a work 8 hours a day (teaching 3 or 4 of those.) So when the work wasn't very rewarding, I only had to muddle through it for a short time. In Japan I was paid very well, and also did some private lessons enough to cover my expenses from privates, and all my language school salary was to save or blow on trips. Now have a family so my expenses are much higher and I'm less likely to take any kind of finacial risk because I have minor dependants. So I'd personally be a lot less likely to quit here unless I knew for certain that I was going to something better. |
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