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Best Experiences Teaching Abroad?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

No need - I am in awe of your mastery of dialectics and your supreme ability to produce the syntheses of theses and antitheses.

Hegel himself would be filled with admiration.

Regards,
John
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contented



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat,

So now we all know that you are in awe of Sasha's mastery of dialectics Laughing , can you please tell us where your best experience was teaching abroad?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear contented,

Ah - but "best" is such a general term: 1. for surroundings: Indonesia (but the pay was poor); for money: Saudi Arabia (but the surroundings were bleak); for memories: Iran (but the Islamic Revolution cut short my stay there.)

So, it seems there's always a downside (or downsides) to offset the upside (or upsides.)

Except for my current teaching experience, here in Santa Fe; it's all good, but that wouldn't be the case if I needed a decent, steady income. However, at this stage in my life, I don't - so, I'm contented. Oops, sorry - you're contented

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John
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contented



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="johnslat"]
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So, it seems there's always a downside (or downsides) to offset the upside (or upsides.)

True, very true. Hopefully, there are more upsides than downsides.

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Except for my current teaching experience, here in Santa Fe; it's all good, but that wouldn't be the case if I needed a decent, steady income. However, at this stage in my life, I don't - so, I'm contented. Oops, sorry - you're contented


Sufficiency leads to contentment in my case. You can be contented too. Smile
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Here. Now.


Ditto. Here and now I have the best job. Pretty sure it's going to end in a year though Sad That's ok, I'll find a good one.
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite teaching gig was South Korea, where I taught for two years on the EPIK programme '97-'99 - not because I enjoyed the teaching but because I didn't have much teaching to do. I enjoyed Korea because I liked the people, liked the food, liked the weather and had fun.
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italy.
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contented



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teacher in Rome wrote:
Italy.
Reasons being?
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well apart from the lifestyle (which is pretty good - y'know, good food, sunny weather, nice people) students are great, and there's a lot of interesting teaching you can do. I've taught business English, teens, and uni students; done traditional classroom teaching and developed elearning programmes... a great mix and all challenging.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked with some really great people (fellow foreigners) in Ecuador and had the time of my life, but teaching kind of sucked and I was living off savings. I enjoyed Japan a lot more than I thought I would, and I had more disposible income than I've ever had in my life (that was in the mid 90s). The teaching was just so-so.

But I found work satisfaction in Mexico, where I was really encouraged to develop myself as a teacher and deepen my knowledge of second language acquisition. And it continues to do so, nearly 15 years later. Outside of work, I also found love in Mexico. Razz And I'm able to live a very comfortable life.
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a few years of full-time service with any private sector or government employer, and you'll get more than two weeks of vacation. A lot of people I know have trouble using all of their vacation, and end up losing some of it, or being forced to take days off before year's end.
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contented



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Get a few years of full-time service with any private sector or government employer, and you'll get more than two weeks of vacation. A lot of people I know have trouble using all of their vacation, and end up losing some of it, or being forced to take days off before year's end.


Hey Zero,
Was your comment suppose to go in the 'Americans--What do you do about healthcare when you return home?' topic section?
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shite. Yes. Thanks. Sorry about that. I'll repost.
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contented



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
I worked with some really great people (fellow foreigners) in Ecuador and had the time of my life, but teaching kind of sucked and I was living off savings. I enjoyed Japan a lot more than I thought I would, and I had more disposible income than I've ever had in my life (that was in the mid 90s). The teaching was just so-so.

But I found work satisfaction in Mexico, where I was really encouraged to develop myself as a teacher and deepen my knowledge of second language acquisition. And it continues to do so, nearly 15 years later. Outside of work, I also found love in Mexico. Razz And I'm able to live a very comfortable life.


MotherF, your post got me thinking about job satisfaction which has been on my mind recently. Would you change teaching jobs if you didn't find work satisfaction in your current position despite the economic downturn? Or would you wait until the economy improved (supposing that one had a good paying job and a decent amount of savings, but the teaching was so-so)? I'm open to comments from everyone.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question.
Your question made me realize that I also left out something about the hours worked. In Ecuador I taught two hours a day and was only paid for those hours, had the rest of the day to do as I pleased. In Japan, I worked 5 hours a day, taught 4 or 5 of those depending on the day. Here in Mexico I have to be a work 8 hours a day (teaching 3 or 4 of those.) So when the work wasn't very rewarding, I only had to muddle through it for a short time. In Japan I was paid very well, and also did some private lessons enough to cover my expenses from privates, and all my language school salary was to save or blow on trips. Now have a family so my expenses are much higher and I'm less likely to take any kind of finacial risk because I have minor dependants. So I'd personally be a lot less likely to quit here unless I knew for certain that I was going to something better.
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