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tesseract

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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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It's actually the "most" part of the headline that I find strange. It seems misleading at best, and incorrect possibly, to say that 51% or 52% is "most". I notice they do that with polling numbers as well, like: "Most Americans support the war in Iraq, with 50.5% supporting it." |
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Junior

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Does anyone find the state of western family units and relationships to be completely ridiculous?
Its hardly a surprise white folks are dying out. No babies!! everyone is to preoccupied with their own little materialistic world.
A complete breakdown in natural patterns of life. next. Will marriages to robots be legal? |
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Pluto
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Junior wrote: |
Its hardly a surprise white folks are dying out. |
How racially motivated of you.
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A complete breakdown in natural patterns of life. |
White people breeding? |
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ED209
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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The problem is that marriage is outdated. We need a system that reflects current attitudes. Few people have a job for life, or live in the same place for life. So why have a wife or husband for life. Marriage should be like an E2 visa. A short term contract, any work on the side and you're out, even if you're doing it for free. If you run away mid contract, well you gonna have to wait till that contract expires before you can get married again. When your contract finishes you decide to re-sign, sign a new partner or get a ticket home.
I didn't read the article, but I hope my comments helped. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone find the state of western family units and relationships to be completely ridiculous?
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There are two and only two differences between families 'now' and 'then'. Now family members speak openly of the same old problems people kept quiet about then and now are no longer required to stay legally bound in the lousy relationships they were then. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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living and working abroad for those of us who are partnered but not married can be an issue. if only one of us gets a job, only one of us gets the visa and can stay, if i'm not mistaken. |
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hugo_danner

Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Location: korea
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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ED209 wrote: |
The problem is that marriage is outdated. We need a system that reflects current attitudes. Few people have a job for life, or live in the same place for life. So why have a wife or husband for life. Marriage should be like an E2 visa. A short term contract, any work on the side and you're out, even if you're doing it for free. If you run away mid contract, well you gonna have to wait till that contract expires before you can get married again. When your contract finishes you decide to re-sign, sign a new partner or get a ticket home.
I didn't read the article, but I hope my comments helped. |
No, it just points out that you talk out of your ass! The family has been the center of civilization since the beginning. It basically shows how much trouble Western culture is in when idiots like you start to think like this!  |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: |
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hugo_danner wrote: |
ED209 wrote: |
The problem is that marriage is outdated. We need a system that reflects current attitudes. Few people have a job for life, or live in the same place for life. So why have a wife or husband for life. Marriage should be like an E2 visa. A short term contract, any work on the side and you're out, even if you're doing it for free. If you run away mid contract, well you gonna have to wait till that contract expires before you can get married again. When your contract finishes you decide to re-sign, sign a new partner or get a ticket home.
I didn't read the article, but I hope my comments helped. |
No, it just points out that you talk out of your ass! The family has been the center of civilization since the beginning. It basically shows how much trouble Western culture is in when idiots like you start to think like this!  |
And you took him seriously. Ha! |
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Smurfette

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
hugo_danner wrote: |
ED209 wrote: |
The problem is that marriage is outdated. We need a system that reflects current attitudes. Few people have a job for life, or live in the same place for life. So why have a wife or husband for life. Marriage should be like an E2 visa. A short term contract, any work on the side and you're out, even if you're doing it for free. If you run away mid contract, well you gonna have to wait till that contract expires before you can get married again. When your contract finishes you decide to re-sign, sign a new partner or get a ticket home.
I didn't read the article, but I hope my comments helped. |
No, it just points out that you talk out of your ass! The family has been the center of civilization since the beginning. It basically shows how much trouble Western culture is in when idiots like you start to think like this!  |
And you took him seriously. Ha! |
Actually, I thought he made a good point. Made sense to me. |
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ella

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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My only complaint about articles like this is that they make it sound like something has changed and women and men just don't need each other anymore. I couldn't disagree more. While there are always statistical outliers, most people need others. It's normal, natural, and human. This whole idea that marriage and families are outmoded somehow is just bizarre, to me. I understand if someone chose poorly and they don't want to repeat that mistake. That's fine, but that doesn't mean the rest of us don't want - or need - the chance to make that choice for ourselves. |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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ella wrote: |
My only complaint about articles like this is that they make it sound like something has changed and women and men just don't need each other anymore. I couldn't disagree more. While there are always statistical outliers, most people need others. It's normal, natural, and human. This whole idea that marriage and families are outmoded somehow is just bizarre, to me. I understand if someone chose poorly and they don't want to repeat that mistake. That's fine, but that doesn't mean the rest of us don't want - or need - the chance to make that choice for ourselves. |
I hope you find a great guy with a very large...nose.
Every time I hear you speak, you always sound so damn great.
Plus you love the X-Files. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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hugo_danner wrote: |
ED209 wrote: |
The problem is that marriage is outdated. We need a system that reflects current attitudes. Few people have a job for life, or live in the same place for life. So why have a wife or husband for life. Marriage should be like an E2 visa. A short term contract, any work on the side and you're out, even if you're doing it for free. If you run away mid contract, well you gonna have to wait till that contract expires before you can get married again. When your contract finishes you decide to re-sign, sign a new partner or get a ticket home.
I didn't read the article, but I hope my comments helped. |
No, it just points out that you talk out of your ass! The family has been the center of civilization since the beginning. It basically shows how much trouble Western culture is in when idiots like you start to think like this!  |
He said marriage, not the family unit.
They are not dependent upon each other to exist. |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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hugo_danner wrote: |
ED209 wrote: |
The problem is that marriage is outdated. We need a system that reflects current attitudes. Few people have a job for life, or live in the same place for life. So why have a wife or husband for life. Marriage should be like an E2 visa. A short term contract, any work on the side and you're out, even if you're doing it for free. If you run away mid contract, well you gonna have to wait till that contract expires before you can get married again. When your contract finishes you decide to re-sign, sign a new partner or get a ticket home.
I didn't read the article, but I hope my comments helped. |
No, it just points out that you talk out of your ass! The family has been the center of civilization since the beginning. It basically shows how much trouble Western culture is in when idiots like you start to think like this!  |
That`s not true at all. For the bulk of human history we have lived tribally, in "extended families", and the actual parantage was not even a big issue as people were promiscuous and all children were raised collectively by the tribe/village. The nuclear family as a formal institution only arose with the industrial revolution. It was the most efficient unit for getting the most labour out of the population... |
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