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		nautilus
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: teaching  nationalities. New Zealand? | 
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				So today I had my students make a chart showing Countries, nationalities, and languages.
 
 
eg..
 
 
China- Chinese-chinese
 
Peru-Peruvian-Spanish
 
U.S.- American- English
 
Brazil- Brazillian- Portuguese.
 
 
etc.
 
 
However I was stumped when it came to New zealand. So I filled in the nationality "Kiwi" as the official nationality.
 
So the whole class was repeating in unison "Kiwi, k-i-w-i. etc.
 
 
Is that correct?   | 
			 
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		Samantha
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I don't think so it should be:
 
 
New Zealand-New Zealander-English   Kiwi is just a nickname like calling someone from the States a Yank   | 
			 
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		Ekuboko
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Yeah, but "Kiwi" doesn't have any negative connotations though..    
 
 
Was funny whenever an Korean English teacher I used to know talked about my nationality being "New Zealandian." | 
			 
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		Summer Wine
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori | 
			 
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		Ya-ta Boy
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | doesn't have any negative connotations though | 
	 
 
 
 
I doubt the New York Yankees think 'yankee' has a negative connotation. | 
			 
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		sheba
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori | 
	 
 
 
 
yep | 
			 
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		joeyjoejoe
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  I don't think so it should be:
 
 
New Zealand-New Zealander-English   Kiwi is just a nickname like calling someone from the States a Yank   | 
	 
 
 
it's more like calling someone from the united states a 'sepo' | 
			 
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		Samantha
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Joey...."a sepo" what's that? I don't think I have ever heard that term before.   I mean I know a couple of other terms for different nationalities some may be offensive some maybe not but Sepo is not one I've heard before. | 
			 
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		Col.Brandon
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  Joey...."a sepo" what's that? I don't think I have ever heard that term before.   I mean I know a couple of other terms for different nationalities some may be offensive some maybe not but Sepo is not one I've heard before. | 
	 
 
 
 
C-o-c-kney (or in this case Aussie) rhyming slang - Septic tank/Yank
 
 
Damn this stupid-arsed swear-blocker
 
 
DAVE: TREAT US LIKE ADULTS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!! | 
			 
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		Samantha
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject:  | 
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				ah ok...I've heard of the Rhyming slang before...the one that I like is a greyhound   that is a fun one and those are very very prevalent here in Korea   | 
			 
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		ilovebdt
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori | 
	 
 
 
 
yep | 
	 
 
 
 
ditto that
 
 
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		cruisemonkey
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori | 
	 
 
 
 
yep | 
	 
 
 
 
ditto that... | 
	 
 
 
 
So... Canada - Canadian - English/French/Coast Salish/Haida/Bella Coola/Tsimshan/Tlingit/Tagish/Kaska/Tutchone/Blackfoot/Dakota/Cree/
 
Beothuk/Dene/Mohawk/Michif/Ojibwe/Inuktituk/Thule... etc., etc.   
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		nautilus
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori | 
	 
 
 
 
yep | 
	 
 
 
 
"new zealander" is singular though.Refers to one person. In the same way you would say "he is a frenchman", you could say he is a new zealander."
 
 
But plurally, you say, "They are French". NZ has no group noun.
 
 
Surely you don't say "those people are new zealander". Or "This car was made in new Zealand. It is a New Zealander car.". 
 
or I like New Zealander music".
 
 
??
 
 
How about "New Zealandic".
 
Zealandish.
 
Zealandian.? | 
			 
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		Horangi Munshin
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori | 
	 
 
 
 
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ditto that... | 
	 
 
 
 
So... Canada - Canadian - English/French/Coast Salish/Haida/Bella Coola/Tsimshan/Tlingit/Tagish/Kaska/Tutchone/Blackfoot/Dakota/Cree/
 
Beothuk/Dene/Mohawk/Michif/Ojibwe/Inuktituk/Thule... etc., etc.    | 
	 
 
 
 
They're official languages are they? | 
			 
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		Ekuboko
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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"new zealander" is singular though.Refers to one person. In the same way you would say "he is a frenchman", you could say he is a new zealander."
 
 
But plurally, you say, "They are French". NZ has no group noun.
 
 
Surely you don't say "those people are new zealander". Or "This car was made in new Zealand. It is a New Zealander car.". 
 
or I like New Zealander music".
 
 
??
 
 
How about "New Zealandic".
 
Zealandish.
 
Zealandian.? | 
	 
 
 
 
"These people are New Zealanders."
 
Nothing wrong with that.
 
 
The adjective to describe something from New Zealand (not a person) is just New Zealand.
 
 
e.g. "I like New Zealand music." | 
			 
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