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nautilus



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: teaching nationalities. New Zealand? Reply with quote

So today I had my students make a chart showing Countries, nationalities, and languages.

eg..

China- Chinese-chinese
Peru-Peruvian-Spanish
U.S.- American- English
Brazil- Brazillian- Portuguese.

etc.

However I was stumped when it came to New zealand. So I filled in the nationality "Kiwi" as the official nationality.
So the whole class was repeating in unison "Kiwi, k-i-w-i. etc.

Is that correct? Laughing
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so it should be:

New Zealand-New Zealander-English Very Happy Kiwi is just a nickname like calling someone from the States a Yank Smile
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Ekuboko



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but "Kiwi" doesn't have any negative connotations though.. Wink

Was funny whenever an Korean English teacher I used to know talked about my nationality being "New Zealandian."
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
doesn't have any negative connotations though


I doubt the New York Yankees think 'yankee' has a negative connotation.
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sheba



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:
New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori


yep
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joeyjoejoe



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
I don't think so it should be:

New Zealand-New Zealander-English Very Happy Kiwi is just a nickname like calling someone from the States a Yank Smile

it's more like calling someone from the united states a 'sepo'
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joey...."a sepo" what's that? I don't think I have ever heard that term before. Smile I mean I know a couple of other terms for different nationalities some may be offensive some maybe not but Sepo is not one I've heard before.
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Col.Brandon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
Joey...."a sepo" what's that? I don't think I have ever heard that term before. Smile I mean I know a couple of other terms for different nationalities some may be offensive some maybe not but Sepo is not one I've heard before.


C-o-c-kney (or in this case Aussie) rhyming slang - Septic tank/Yank

Damn this stupid-arsed swear-blocker

DAVE: TREAT US LIKE ADULTS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah ok...I've heard of the Rhyming slang before...the one that I like is a greyhound Very Happy that is a fun one and those are very very prevalent here in Korea Smile
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ilovebdt



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheba wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori


yep


ditto that

ilovebdt
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilovebdt wrote:
sheba wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori


yep


ditto that...


So... Canada - Canadian - English/French/Coast Salish/Haida/Bella Coola/Tsimshan/Tlingit/Tagish/Kaska/Tutchone/Blackfoot/Dakota/Cree/
Beothuk/Dene/Mohawk/Michif/Ojibwe/Inuktituk/Thule... etc., etc. Wink


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nautilus



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheba wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori


yep


"new zealander" is singular though.Refers to one person. In the same way you would say "he is a frenchman", you could say he is a new zealander."

But plurally, you say, "They are French". NZ has no group noun.

Surely you don't say "those people are new zealander". Or "This car was made in new Zealand. It is a New Zealander car.".
or I like New Zealander music".

??

How about "New Zealandic".
Zealandish.
Zealandian.?
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Horangi Munshin



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
ilovebdt wrote:
sheba wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
New Zealand - New Zealander - English/Maori


yep


ditto that...


So... Canada - Canadian - English/French/Coast Salish/Haida/Bella Coola/Tsimshan/Tlingit/Tagish/Kaska/Tutchone/Blackfoot/Dakota/Cree/
Beothuk/Dene/Mohawk/Michif/Ojibwe/Inuktituk/Thule... etc., etc. Wink


They're official languages are they?
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Ekuboko



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:

"new zealander" is singular though.Refers to one person. In the same way you would say "he is a frenchman", you could say he is a new zealander."

But plurally, you say, "They are French". NZ has no group noun.

Surely you don't say "those people are new zealander". Or "This car was made in new Zealand. It is a New Zealander car.".
or I like New Zealander music".

??

How about "New Zealandic".
Zealandish.
Zealandian.?


"These people are New Zealanders."
Nothing wrong with that.

The adjective to describe something from New Zealand (not a person) is just New Zealand.

e.g. "I like New Zealand music."
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