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Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in?
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in? Reply with quote

Empire v. Democracy: Why Nemesis Is at Our Door
by Chalmers Johnson and Tom Engelhardt

...I had set out to explain how exactly our government came to be so hated around the world. As a CIA term of tradecraft, "blowback" does not just mean retaliation for things our government has done to, and in, foreign countries. It refers specifically to retaliation for illegal operations carried out abroad that were kept totally secret from the American public. These operations have included the clandestine overthrow of governments various administrations did not like, the training of foreign militaries in the techniques of state terrorism, the rigging of elections in foreign countries, interference with the economic viability of countries that seemed to threaten the interests of influential American corporations, as well as the torture or assassination of selected foreigners. The fact that these actions were, at least originally, secret meant that when retaliation does come � as it did so spectacularly on September 11, 2001 � the American public is incapable of putting the events in context. Not surprisingly, then, Americans tend to support speedy acts of revenge intended to punish the actual, or alleged, perpetrators. These moments of lashing out, of course, only prepare the ground for yet another cycle of blowback...

http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=10439
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in? Reply with quote

R. S. Refugee wrote:
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=10439

God, even the url is anti-American. I don't imagine this board's American patriots will be wasting their time reading this pile of leftist propaganda.
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Empire v. Democracy: Why Nemesis Is at Our Door
2/1/2007

The Forgotten American Dead
1/26/2007

The State Spies on the Union
1/24/2007

Over the Top in Iraq
1/22/2007

George Bush's Crusading Scorecard (2001-2007)
1/19/2007

Bush's Sacrificial Americans
1/13/2007

Raptors, Robots, and Rods from God
1/10/2007

Baghdad 2025: The Pentagon Solution to a Planet of Slums
1/9/2007

The Surge to Nowhere
1/5/2007

Doubling Down on the Imperial Mission in 2007
1/3/2007

Good Evening, Vietnam
12/20/2006

War Without End
12/14/2006

'Today Is Better Than Tomorrow'
12/12/2006

Impunity and Immunity
12/9/2006

How More Produces
Less in Iraq
12/7/2006

The Iraq Study Group Rides to the Rescue � of the Empire
12/5/2006

Indicting Bush
12/1/2006

Iraq's Insurgency
Does It on the Cheap
11/29/2006

Bringing Bush to Court
11/28/2006

What It Means to 'Salvage US Prestige' in Iraq
11/17/2006

The Empire Goes on Defense
11/15/2006

Dubya Votes for Dunkin'
11/14/2006

Apple Pie, Mom, and
a Story for a Lost War
11/13/2006

Reenacting War
11/11/2006

Outlaw Empire Meets the Wave
11/9/2006

November Surprise
11/6/2006

Prison Planet
11/3/2006

Move Over, GI Joe and
Han Solo
11/1/2006

Poppy Wars
10/30/2006

Fiasco Then, Fiasco Now
10/27/2006

The Bush Administration's
War of the Images
10/25/2006

The End of Maliki?
10/21/2006

Snatching Defeat
From Victory's Jaws
10/19/2006

Nine Paradoxes of a Lost War
10/16/2006

Debunking the Armitage Story
10/13/2006


This is a list of the other articles availible at this site, which means there's a lot of reading left for R.S.. And he'll say that it's the Bush administration that's into the scaremongering.... Hahahahahahaha. Sad thing is, he probably believes that. If he's into stories that scare people, maybe he should try this link. At least they'd be entertaining.


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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in? Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
R. S. Refugee wrote:
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=10439

God, even the url is anti-American. I don't imagine this board's American patriots will be wasting their time reading this pile of leftist propaganda.


anti-war = anti-American?

That's an interesting supposition.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in? Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
gang ah jee wrote:
R. S. Refugee wrote:
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=10439

God, even the url is anti-American. I don't imagine this board's American patriots will be wasting their time reading this pile of leftist propaganda.


anti-war = anti-American?

That's an interesting supposition.


Yes, I was just chuckling over that one too. Very Happy
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there should be some kind of house committee to explore this sort of anti-American activity!!!

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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in? Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
anti-war = anti-American?


That's what the neo-cons here have been telling us for years, haven't you been listening to them?
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Nemesis is at the door. Shall we let her in? Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Wangja wrote:
anti-war = anti-American?


That's what the neo-cons here have been telling us for years, haven't you been listening to them?


No, not really, although I do frequently titter on the sidelines. Laughing
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Slep



Joined: 14 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a 'leftist' site. The people who run it are openly libertarian.
But yes, much more productive to shoot the messenger rather than the message.
Huzzah!
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sundubuman



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: