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[Gopher]

[Nowhere Man]

That's just overly cynical.

I don't like your tone.

You baited me.

Boo hoo.

[Gopher]

For comparative purposes...

[Junior]

"universal" would imply that the whole world undergoes military service.

Its like the "world series". Duh, hello, America is the only country aside from maybe cuba that plays beseball.



Where do they get off thinking they are the only country on the planet?

[Nowhere Man]

And by the way, who said surveillance had to be covert?

Surveillance is the monitoring of behavior. Systems surveillance is the process of monitoring the behavior of people, objects or processes within systems for conformity to expected or desired norms in trusted systems for security or social control. Clinical surveillance refers to the monitoring of diseases or public health�related indicators (for example symptoms indicating an act of bioterrorism) by epidemiologists and public health professionals.
Surveillance cameras
Surveillance cameras

Although the word surveillance in French literally means "watching over",[1] the term is often used for all forms of observation or monitoring, not just visual observation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance

I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth.

Watch it, professor.

[Gopher]

[Nowhere Man]

Yes, I was discussing watching people, genious.

But your black/white mind can't grasp the plurality in meanings. Your own hate blinds you.

And hey, stop following me. I made a bet with my friend that you'd follow me, and you did. So, HA! You stalker!

[Nowhere Man]

[seoulunitarian]

[Kuros]

[Nowhere Man]

[Sincinnatislink]

[madcap]

I have to agree with Desultude. When you have a volunteer army you are by nature disassociating the middle and upper classes from any conflict that the country engages in. Look at who enlists in the military, it is overwhelmingly lower class people straight out of highschool who are attracted by the bonuses and immigrants who want to bring their families over to America. These are social groups that are easy to control and who are more supportive of the military institutions because they feel indebted to them. If we had universal service we would incorporate more of the middle and upper classes into picture and this would make conflict even less desirable than it is now. Sure there is going to be some cheating by the upper classes to get their kids out of active combat, but, unfortunately, that's part of what we have to deal with by not being born with a silver spoon up our asses (yeah, I know it's bleeped, but you all know what it says). No, I wouldn't want to join the army right now, but I don't think we would be at war (at least in Iraq) if we had a conscript army. The support of the middle class is possibly the most powerful voice in this country and instead of thinking about their sons and daughters, they thought about cheap gas at the pump.

[thepeel]

A "draft" is the institutionalizing of slavery. It is a fundamental retarding of the state-citizen-government relationship. The state does not own the people, and cannot command them to go to war. This is the elementary logic of liberty.

But in a world of income taxes, property taxes, drug laws, national ID cards and other violations of liberty we cannot be surprised when the government finally decides that we belong to them.

[caniff]

[quote="Junior
Its like the "world series". Duh, hello, America is the only country aside from maybe cuba that plays beseball.



Where do they get off thinking they are the only country on the planet?[/quote]

Are you serious? Do you live in Korea? Ever heard of Japan? Central and South America?

Stick to what you know. Bible stories.