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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: Ha,ha! Shocked new 'manager' needs textbook recommendations. |
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I've just been informed that we don't have all our textbooks ordered for the new semester. The person who'd been responsible for that has quit, and is leaving at the end of the month, and nobody told me I'd be the new go-to guy until, uh, like five minutes ago.
Retards. They could've mentioned it like TWO WEEKS ago...or mentioned that the last person hadn't got things squared away, or even close. But no, that would make way too much sense.
So, has anybody got any good reccomendations for elementary and middle school level textbooks? What are some of your favorites?
We're now using Oxford Fantastic, but they are kind of weak. Not Fantastic at all.
Any help would be appreciated. Just trying to make the most of a dumb situation here.
Thanks! |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Not your job, don't bother! |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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spliff wrote: |
Not your job, don't bother! |
I agree. |
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Return Jones

Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: I will see you in far-off places
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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spliff wrote: |
Not your job, don't bother! |
I'd love to stick it to a sh*t for brains hagwon manager too, but problem is if the teacher doesn't choose books, he'll have nothing to do during class.
For elementary school (my chosen specialty) I like the Super Kids series. Some people will disagree, but it has worked well for me for about two years.
I think there was a thread about a month ago about elementary school books. Do a search and see what you come up with. Good luck! |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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English time was a favorite of mine when I was in teaching in hogwans.
The units are well organized and concise. A good voab section to start things out. A section with dialog and a writing section. Always managed to fill a 50 minute class with one unit without a problem.
Hope you get more suggestions.... |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tips--and yeah, Spliff and yingwenlaoshi, it's certainly not the job I agreed on when I signed the contract...but really, I prefer taking the reins now, rather than crossing my arms petulantly while this idiot team I've shackled my wagon to careens off into who-knows-what. If I can make a go of it, good for me; if I can't, well, I can always quit!
I'm optimistic I can make lemonade here though. Should be alright...it's an asspain to be sure, and another bolt in my quarrel, so to speak, of reasons to not work in small disorganized schools ever again. But, in the short-term meantime, better to lead than to follow, right? If I don't do it, the next FAS baby they hire will probably do an even worse job of it than the last. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Alyallen wrote: |
English time was a favorite of mine when I was in teaching in hogwans.
The units are well organized and concise. A good voab section to start things out. A section with dialog and a writing section. Always managed to fill a 50 minute class with one unit without a problem.
Hope you get more suggestions.... |
Yes, ET is good. You can really stretch it out to 2 pages per class and keep reviewing what they've learned. It takes me sometimes maybe 3 one-hour classes to do one unit for lower levels. I'd say 2 units a week (3 classes) for the brightest class. It let's you pick apart their pronunciation and provides lots of room to teach grammar and to translate.
Gets a little tricky when you get to ET5. The Conversation Times (at the start of the unit) get pretty tricky to explain if the students are too young/less advanced. Same goes with the Reading Time. The Reading Times are good though because you can make them answer the questions in full sentences as is with Your Time. Good stuff.
Had this temporary teacher teaching the half-hour class after my hour and she was accepting they answer without making full sentences. Like yes/no or one-word answers. Pretty bad. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: |
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You are making a wrong choice about being volunteered into being the head ass-wipe. Primarily having to wipe your boss' ass and clean up after his mess.
Why would you even bother/consider? I hope you're gettin a shit load of money for being volunteered into being the head ass-wipe. Just consider it as your beginning of your end because they'll just pile the shit on you like there's no tomorrow. Have fun.....  |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Anyway, if you know of a good book, suggest it. Don't spend hours upon hours thinking and planning about this. Then leave it at that. Don't do anything else. You're paid to teach. That's it. If you're teaching 6 classes/day, there's nothing else to be done.
Screw prep. Screw making a curriculum. Screw tests. Screw reports. Do what you can within the time frame you were hired to do it. If they want more, they can pay you overtime that you can work at your discretion. |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: |
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yep, they're paying me extra. my contract is 4 hours a day, and everything else, overtime. if they welch, I leave.
I'm not too worried really. If it works out, great, and if not...well, I was kinda thinking 'greener pastures' anyways. |
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buster brown
Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I'll agree with others about English Time. I've only used books 4 and 5, but the curriculum is good, there are extra copiable worksheets and tests in the teacher's book, and the teacher's book has lots of additional activities to help reinforce what you're teaching. That said, I also don't think you can go wrong with Let's Go. Both are published by Oxford and have very similar styles. Just make sure they spring for the teacher's book no matter which series you suggest. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I too can recommend english time....
Well thought out but quite to the point and the worksheets and tests are quite good...
Make sure you get the teachers books with the student books |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: |
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English Time is good!
I'm amazed you got through one whole unit a class. That is 4 pages. That is do-able if they know the stuff already.. and you're kinda reviewing.. but.. I was teaching English Time just recently and I went with 1 page a 50 minute class. Then we'd play a game which would reinforce the vocab/grammar/phonics of that page. Sometimes I'd do 2 pages. I had no guidelines so I just went with what felt good. I felt like I was blasting through the book when I was doing 2 pages instead of one a day though.
(I was their only teacher though, they weren't learning with a K-teacher outside of my class) |
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b_canadian_eh
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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We use SuperKids as well as Backpack and English Zone for our elementary kids. The lower levels for both EZ and and BP are pretty good. Higher than 3... big jump between levels. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Hyeon Een wrote: |
English Time is good!
I'm amazed you got through one whole unit a class. That is 4 pages. That is do-able if they know the stuff already.. and you're kinda reviewing.. but.. I was teaching English Time just recently and I went with 1 page a 50 minute class. Then we'd play a game which would reinforce the vocab/grammar/phonics of that page. Sometimes I'd do 2 pages. I had no guidelines so I just went with what felt good. I felt like I was blasting through the book when I was doing 2 pages instead of one a day though.
(I was their only teacher though, they weren't learning with a K-teacher outside of my class) |
Very stretchoutable curriculum. They're learning and you're riding the freeway to free money. |
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