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Gopher
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 Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Chile Considers Developing Nuclear Power... |
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| SANTIAGO.-La Ministra de Miner�a, Karen Poniachick, declar� esta tarde que desde diciembre est� trabajando un grupo de expertos, nombrado por la presidenta Michelle Bachelet, para realizar los estudios que permitan conocer la factibilidad t�cnica de emplear energ�a nuclear en Chile... |
El Mercurio Report
If it is indeed feasible and if Santiago actually moves in this direction -- and it might -- we would likely see Chile as an example of a non-belligerent nation-state looking into advanced, nuclear energy sources.
Perhaps Bolivia and/or Peru might try to make something of it. But still this case would stand in stark contrast to Tehran and the international concerns it has generated. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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It's possible...
Peru y Bolivia son demasiado apuro...particularmente Bolivia. |
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Octavius Hite
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Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Well, if they get out of hand the US can just overthrow the government and appoint a dictator to run things, not that the beacon of freedom would ever do such a thing.  |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Well, if they get out of hand the US can just overthrow the government and appoint a dictator to run things, not that the beacon of freedom would ever do such a thing. |
You're right, America wouldn't do that. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Well, if they get out of hand the US can just overthrow the government and appoint a dictator to run things, not that the beacon of freedom would ever do such a thing. |
FYI, this is 2007, not 1907. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Chile Considers Developing Nuclear Power... |
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| Gopher wrote: |
If it is indeed feasible and if Santiago actually moves in this direction -- and it might -- we would likely see Chile as an example of a non-belligerent nation-state looking into advanced, nuclear energy sources.
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Been there, done that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons
If fair is fair, nuclear proliferation will be stopped no matter where it occurs. |
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Octavius Hite
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Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote:
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| FYI, this is 2007, not 1907. |
Just a brief list (I'm too tired to typ alot) of some US Sponsered/Backed/Supported/Financed/Led/Fomenteted/Accepted (in violation of US government policy) coups/invasions/occupations/etc:
Cuba April 15, 1961
Iran August 19, 1953
Guatamala Summer 1953
South Vietnam 1963 (Diem), 1964 (Minh), 1975 (Thieu)
Chile September 11, 1973
Panama 1968, 1989
Haiti 1915
Dominican Republic 1965
Iraq 2003
You're right though, it's not 1907. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Been there, done that... |
But the Chilean govt is not proposing or even discussing nuclear weapons, Huffdaddy. Neither is the Chilean govt holding Holocaust-denial conferences aimed at undermining a neighbor's "right" to exist or proposing that we rewrite the South American map according to its own sensibilities.
With regards nuclear weapons, Chile and most if not all other Latin American and Caribbean states have already categorically renounced nuclear weapons.
Want more? Have you seen the Treaty of Tlatelolco yet...?
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Been there, done that... |
But the Chilean govt is not proposing or even discussing nuclear weapons, Huffdaddy. Neither is it holding Holocaust-denial conferences aimed at undermining a neighbor's "right" to exist nor proposing that we rewrite the South American map according to Chilean sensibilities. |
Perhaps Huffdaddy should check [url=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPT]this out[/url]. Signatories can have nuclear energy programs as long as they are accompanied by regular weapons inspections and approved by the inspectors.
When you start enriching plutonium or uranium to near weapons-grade, beyond 20%, its a warning signal. For power-generating purposes generally only single-digit percentage enrichment is required. Think of all the Holocaust-fact-finding seminars they could hold with that money Iran would save! |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Been there, done that... |
But the Chilean govt is not proposing or even discussing nuclear weapons, Huffdaddy. |
Okay. That's what I get for posting on a serious topic while I'm half drunk. Still, it's not new news...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_by_country
The rest of the discussion will have to wait until I sober up.  |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| ...it's not new news... |
These high-handed "I-reject-all-authority-and-insist-everybody-reinvent-the-wheel-anytime-anybody-says-anything" posts annoy me to no end.
Chile does not at present have nuclear power. Its govt recently formed a feasibility study group to advise the President whether Chile can and should develop nuclear power. Chile's El Mercurio, the nation's most powerful newspaper, ran this front-page story several days ago.
So, yes, it is news -- whatever you can spontaneously google, notwithstanding. And incidentally, your chart appears to be out-of-date. Should Chile not be off-white, or whatever color "considering first plant" is...? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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Would that the future is knowable. Guessable, yes; knowable, no. Chile has no ambitions now. Will that ever be the case? One thinks not. The environmental risks alone are enough to oppose nuclear power use at this time.
I have no quibble, in particular, with scientific development and see no reason that nuclear power should not exist, but I also believe we know too little about it and have far better options overall. That said, I'd have to look into Chile's power situation to actually state an opinion about that nation's use of nuclear power in specific.
However, the juxtaposition by the OP of Chile and Iran was intentional, stupid trolling. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Chile does not at present have nuclear power. Its govt recently formed a feasibility study group to advise the President whether Chile can and should develop nuclear power. Chile's El Mercurio, the nation's most powerful newspaper, ran this front-page story several days ago.
So, yes, it is news |
Umm, okay. So do you actually have a point? Or are you just keeping us informed? |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Umm, okay. So do you actually have a point? Or are you just keeping us informed? |
Beg your pardon, Huffdaddy. There must have been a mistake. I thought I had posted this story in the Current Events forum.
Such a post -- that is, one that does not denounce 9/11 as a conspiracy or contribute to one of Regicide's neverending JFK conspiracy-theory threads, one that fails to attack or angrily denounce the Iraqi War and American foreign policy generally, one that does not shrilly demand W. Bush's impeachment, or one that cannot contribute to the running evolution "debate" -- must seem confusing here in this forum, whatever it might be called. And I apologize for this confusion, this break in the routine.
In any case, should you not find a story on Chile's just-announced intention to look into the feasibility of developing nuclear power, particularly to compare-and-contrast this with the concurrent Iranian story, I will neither compel you to read nor to respond to this thread... |
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huffdaddy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Such a post -- that is, one that does not denounce 9/11 as a conspiracy or contribute to one of Regicide's neverending JFK conspiracy-theory threads, one that fails to attack or angrily denounce the Iraqi War and American foreign policy generally, one that does not shrilly demand W. Bush's impeachment, or one that cannot contribute to the running evolution "debate" -- must seem confusing here in this forum, whatever it might be called. And I apologize for this confusion, this break in the routine. |
It's quite alright. I do find people's attempts to inject actual current events into the forum acceptable, albeit sometimes confusing.
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| In any case, should you not find a story on Chile's just-announced intention to look into the feasibility of developing nuclear power, particularly to compare-and-contrast this with the concurrent Iranian story, I will neither compel you to read nor to respond to this thread... |
Not to worry, I never feel compelled to read or respond. I have duly compared and contrasted the stories. Thank you, Gopher. |
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