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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: I have a theory Reply with quote

Ok. It's not much.

The reason why children or adults might speak in banmal to foreigners is because they are taught English in banmal. When they translate, they use banmal.

I often seems to me that when I ask a student how to say a sentence in Korean, they use it. I'm not sure if it's because they're translating it the way I would speak to them though. Or the way they would speak to each other.

In short, I'm not sure. Someone please spread some light on this.


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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple Korean of the sort that adults speak to children and pets is 반말. Without thinking, some Koreans speak 반말 to foreigners because of the perception that it's somehow simpler and easier to understand.

And, of course, some people are shit heads.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but in the classroom, when translating (God help us all), do the Korean teachers translate English sentences into simple Korean?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you need to do with English is add the word "please" in the ending or beginning, then it's no longer banmal.

Banmal in english is just talking without the pleases and titles. There is a Korean word for "please" but it's rarely used.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffkim1972 wrote:
All you need to do with English is add the word "please" in the ending or beginning, then it's no longer banmal.

Banmal in english is just talking without the pleases and titles. There is a Korean word for "please" but it's rarely used.


What's that got to do with the price of eggs?
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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Yeah, but in the classroom, when translating (God help us all), do the Korean teachers translate English sentences into simple Korean?


I think they generally translate into an infinitive style and end with what could be construed as a high 반말, but I could very well be wrong.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Yeah, but in the classroom, when translating (God help us all), do the Korean teachers translate English sentences into simple Korean?


I think they generally translate into an infinitive style and end with what could be construed as a high 반말, but I could very well be wrong.


Yeah, that's what I noticed. There's a 다 at the end when they translate. I do, however, hear the children say, "하니" for "do" and not "하다".
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