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[ron_j]

ttompatz: what defines levels? obviously a level 3 teacher just has to have a BA and be a native English speaker. What about the others?

[ttompatz]

[JeJuJitsu]

[ttompatz]

[Return Jones]

[lover.asian]

[dam_on]

[Bukowski]

Conditions are indeed improving. As I have mentioned numerous times before, Chungnam Province has the best compensation/contract conditions of any public school positions being offered in Korea, and we still were unable to fill our demand during our winter recruitment session (we only filled 18 of the 30 positions!).

Getting the information out there is one problem, and the other is, many do not want to live in rural Korea. It's not for everyone.

That being said, we recruited some of the best people I have ever seen come through our program.

Instead of the standard 3 level government contracts, we offer 5 levels (much higher salaries for qualified applicants). We offer far more vacation than the standard public school contracts. Moreover, though the contract conditions state 22 classroom hours per week, those that visit multiple schools have had their workload reduced by 1~3 classroom hours per week.

Things continue to improve.

AC

[ChuckECheese]

[Bukowski]

http://www.cne.go.kr/images/engl/epic/epic.pdf

I'm not going to copy and paste the entire contract here, as you can find the conditions online.

Level 1++: 3.0
1+: 2.8
1: 2.6
2: 2.4
3: 2.2

AC

BTW, we are going to be starting an after-school program (a glorified hagwon for poor children in the public school system). All of the 15 districts in our province will be getting additional funds to hire an additional foreigner to conduct the classes (that is on top of the current supplementary classes that are already offered). My guess is that some of the current teachers will try to double dip.

I hope they allow it.

[PRagic]

If you are a level 1++ and not applying to the Hong Kong NET program, do so. Double the pay, easily.

[Bukowski]

I am 1++, and I looked into Hong Kong years ago. However, I don't follow your calculations. The max I could get in Hong Kong would be around 40,000 HKD per month (but that would take about 6 years in their program before I was at that level). If anything, that could be considered roughly comparable (with extra work, housing allowance, etc.), only after 10 years were invested there (I don't plan on teaching that much longer).

Care to elaborate on how you came up with those numbers, the double salary that is? What am I missing?

AC

[ttompatz]

[gsxr750r]

I'm only interested in hearing the BASE pay figures when comparing raises in salary. When people go quoting higher numbers (at 28 hours) when the base is 23 hours, or whatever, it's very misleading -- especially for newbees. Sounds like a sales pitch.

It's great if salaries are on the rise, but that's easy to say if you compare it to numbers from just after IMF. If you compare numbers in the past five years, you'll find the raise is not so significant. (unless something has changed that I missed).

I started at 2.2 as a newbee at a hagwon back in 2002. That was a good newbee wage back then, when the average was closer to 2.0 to 2.1 at other places.

My base pay at my uni today is 2.1. I get between 19,000 and 30,000 per hour for OT, depending on what time of the day the OT happens, and the type of class. Not the greatest salary in the world, but I also have a 2BR apartment and a really great new office that's almost like another small house.

Conditions and hours worked for that base are important to consider. Options for newbees are limited, but those with teaching degrees and experience should be looking hard at conditions as well.

[poet13]

Dammit. Stopped getting notices, and lost track of this thread.... I hate that!