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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Thanks, Superacidjax, I'll look those recommendations up!  |
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waltjocketty
Joined: 09 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| So you know ATB! Can you recommend music that is comparable? |
Some good artists who are similar to ATB:
Blank&Jones, 4 Strings, Armin Van Buuren, Scooter, Ian Van Dahl, Ferry Corsten, Sylver, Chicane, Darude, Groove Coverage, Pulsedriver, Lasgo, Fragma.
PM me if you want more. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| waltjocketty wrote: |
| captain kirk wrote: |
| So you know ATB! Can you recommend music that is comparable? |
Some good artists who are similar to ATB:
Blank&Jones, 4 Strings, Armin Van Buuren, Scooter, Ian Van Dahl, Ferry Corsten, Sylver, Chicane, Darude, Groove Coverage, Pulsedriver, Lasgo, Fragma.
PM me if you want more. |
wait..did u just say scooter? This is ATB? That stuff with the high pitched voices. That stuff is the province of 14 year old kids and teenage discos. To each his own though.
edit: On closer inspection i do know some of these guys. I saw armand van buuren a few times, I thought he was like a trance anthem dj? Is that ATB? I can see the similarity between these people but you've really taken the most credible guys and mixed them in with some laughing stocks. I'm not a big trance fan and it is very 1998  but as I said to each his own. But really scooter!! I take it you have never had to endure a bunch of 12 year olds argue about ramenstein and scooter using their phone ringtones as proof. The worse thing is he was popular when i was that age, then he goes and releases what seems like exactly the same songs again to a new generation. |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Electronic music peaked with Zapp & Roger |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
This is ATB? That stuff with the high pitched voices. That stuff is the province of 14 year old kids and teenage discos. To each his own though.
edit: On closer inspection i do know some of these guys. I saw armand van buuren a few times, I thought he was like a trance anthem dj? Is that ATB? I can see the similarity between these people but you've really taken the most credible guys and mixed them in with some laughing stocks. I'm not a big trance fan and it is very 1998 but as I said to each his own. But really scooter!! I take it you have never had to endure a bunch of 12 year olds argue about ramenstein and scooter using their phone ringtones as proof. The worse thing is he was popular when i was that age, then he goes and releases what seems like exactly the same songs again to a new generation. |
ATB is the name of an artist. His name is Andre Tanneberger. All of the stuff you've said about "12 year olds" could even more accurately be describing the current state of so-called "alternative rock" and certainly the low IQ rumble of "booty hip-hop." Unless you're only a fan of classic jazz or vintage blues.. just about every genre of music is in the purview of 12 year olds and those stupid ringtones.
I think hip-hop is the worst offender of all, in that regard. Just watch MTV for 18 seconds and that's fact is clear. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| superacidjax wrote: |
| trubadour wrote: |
forgot to mention >>
currently listeing to Rarioactive Man (will seed on request!) << saw him with Andrew Weatherall at Fabric in London- Wow, man they had it go'n on.. |
Fabric is one of the coolest places around! The Gallery is another great venue.. I'm going there in May for the Armada event. I can't wait to visit the UK clubs again!
Of course I'm sure noone will be at these clubs since no one in Europe listens to electronic music!  |
FabricLive (on a Friday) was my favourite place to go clubbing circa 2002-2003. Three rooms of mayhem, encompassing drum n bass, breaks and hip hop. Packed to the rafters almost every week too... However, its also responsible for my terrible short-term memory performance these days. Don't know what its like now, but back then it was awesome.
DJ Vadim this weekend anyone? I heard it was 30,000 to get in to Cargo. |
Fabric became pretty lame by the time i came to korea in august last year, i had so many 'i am never coming to this club ever again' moments 2005-2006. I think at some time the atmosphere changed along with the clientelle, some nights it verged on the hostile.
HYPE HYPE HYPE
Personally I like The End.
Anyone who likes oakenfold, atb or any of that wank would probably love fabric though |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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DJ Vadim this weekend anyone? I heard it was 30,000 to get in to Cargo. |
damn i wish i lived near seoul. next year, next year..... |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| superacidjax wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
This is ATB? That stuff with the high pitched voices. That stuff is the province of 14 year old kids and teenage discos. To each his own though.
edit: On closer inspection i do know some of these guys. I saw armand van buuren a few times, I thought he was like a trance anthem dj? Is that ATB? I can see the similarity between these people but you've really taken the most credible guys and mixed them in with some laughing stocks. I'm not a big trance fan and it is very 1998 but as I said to each his own. But really scooter!! I take it you have never had to endure a bunch of 12 year olds argue about ramenstein and scooter using their phone ringtones as proof. The worse thing is he was popular when i was that age, then he goes and releases what seems like exactly the same songs again to a new generation. |
ATB is the name of an artist. His name is Andre Tanneberger. All of the stuff you've said about "12 year olds" could even more accurately be describing the current state of so-called "alternative rock" and certainly the low IQ rumble of "booty hip-hop." Unless you're only a fan of classic jazz or vintage blues.. just about every genre of music is in the purview of 12 year olds and those stupid ringtones.
I think hip-hop is the worst offender of all, in that regard. Just watch MTV for 18 seconds and that's fact is clear. |
I was talking about scooter really. that guy is a complete joke. In hip hop terms he really makes Vanilla Ice look like a genius. Probably the worst DJ I've heard and he is for tennage discos. I've never heard him played at a club for example and I would assume that the DJ would be laughed out of the place if he did. Here is an example of the genius of scooter. Comparing him to armaand van buuren and the like undermines the lot of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWRQ_In1KBA
edit..actually looking at that list again, its basically everything i hated about anthemic trance. That stuff is the definition of cheesy. Lets not all go back to 1998.
Booty hip hop is pretty good in my opinion as it has good beats. That is all that is important to me. |
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waltjocketty
Joined: 09 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe i should have elaborated. I didn't think people would take me seriously. I think ATB is damaged goods and I made a list of electronic musicians who give me the same nauseous feeling I get from ATB (unless I'm back in 10th grade, have a pacifier in my mouth, and my eyes are rolling back into my head.) Then he's a god. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| waltjocketty wrote: |
| maybe i should have elaborated. I didn't think people would take me seriously. I think ATB is damaged goods and I made a list of electronic musicians who give me the same nauseous feeling I get from ATB (unless I'm back in 10th grade, have a pacifier in my mouth, and my eyes are rolling back into my head.) Then he's a god. |
Ah..I should have realised you were joking cos that is one terrible list of djs, although van muuren wasn't too bad when I saw him. Pacifier? I'm more of a vicks inhaler and gum kind of guy. Throw in menthol cigarettes when I used to smoke. |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| I was talking about scooter really. that guy is a complete joke. In hip hop terms he really makes Vanilla Ice look like a genius. Probably the worst DJ I've heard and he is for tennage discos. I've never heard him played at a club for example and I would assume that the DJ would be laughed out of the place if he did. Here is an example of the genius of scooter. Comparing him to armaand van buuren and the like undermines the lot of them. |
God does Scooter suck! I am a big fan of trance/progressive house, but scooter just gives the genre a horrible name. Comparing Van B. in the same breath as scooter is like comparing Roger Corman to Tarantino..
That scooter stuff is classic 1994.. but in a bad way. I almost vomited when I read "Scooter."
It's funny that I actually see some people in Korea (mostly lost Westerners) STILL using glowsticks. Maybe glowsticks were worthwhile during the halcyon days of LSD and perhaps MDMA, but now it's just passe, and even a little pathetic. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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After going to M2 and listening to one guy playing the same thing 2 hours later on loop, I am not impressed.
Oh well, this is not electronica country (go to Japan). |
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Slep
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
DJ Vadim this weekend anyone? I heard it was 30,000 to get in to Cargo. |
damn i wish i lived near seoul. next year, next year..... |
where is this cargo place
well tickets be available at the door? |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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After thinking more, especially about the inclusion of "Scooter" into the discussion about electronic music, I've begun to wonder if we could extrapolate Scooter silliness into other genre's of music.
Scooter is classic circa 1994-8 and, in my opinion, does not even begin to represent the diversity and intelligence of the current era. For people to form their entire opinion of electronic dance music on someone like Scooter is much akin to judging all Jazz based on the artistic stylings of Kenny G. Or all rock music simply by listening to a single Warrant b-side.
I respect the fact that some people dislike the electronic dance genre, however basing that dislike on someone like Scooter (or his clones) is to possibly prevent enjoyment of the music. I never liked so-called "techno" until, in 1999 while driving a taxi to pay for school, I heard an ethereal guitar riff in the midst of a radio show featuring a dance music live broadcast from a local club. That guitar riff evolved into an incredible song and, while I was driving I was simply blown away. I had never heard anything even remotely electronic that had ever given me instant chills. I drove over to the club and paid the cover, went inside, wormed my way to the DJ booth and asked the DJ, "What was that song? The one with the guitar!"
He wrote it on a napkin, "Seven Cities, by Solarstone." That was the beginning of my exploration into electronic music that I previously and ignorantly bundled in the same breath as C&C Music factory and Enigma.
My point is that to discount an entire mega-genre of music based simply on a single club outing or some melted-cheese crap song, is to potentially miss out on something that might inspire you or even make you smile. Seven Cities did it for me. For me, that song was like hearing my first Beach Boys record at age five with my mom..
If anyone wants to hear Seven Cities, here's the link to Solarstone's Myspace. I don't expect everyone to like it, but in 1999, this song did it for me. Also, if you like The Killers, go visit my friend Dave Dresden's page. His group remixed "Read My Mind." It's the last song on his player.. it's one of the better examples of what's going on with EDM these days.
Solarstone's Myspace Page: www.myspace.com/solarstone2006
Dave Dresden's Myspace Page: www.myspace.com/davedresden
For guitar rock fans, one of my old friends from Houston has a new rock band.. It features a former member of Buckcherry; go listen to The Getaway Car: www.myspace.com/thegetawaycarband |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| superacidjax wrote: |
After thinking more, especially about the inclusion of "Scooter" into the discussion about electronic music, I've begun to wonder if we could extrapolate Scooter silliness into other genre's of music.
Scooter is classic circa 1994-8 and, in my opinion, does not even begin to represent the diversity and intelligence of the current era. For people to form their entire opinion of electronic dance music on someone like Scooter is much akin to judging all Jazz based on the artistic stylings of Kenny G. Or all rock music simply by listening to a single Warrant b-side.
I respect the fact that some people dislike the electronic dance genre, however basing that dislike on someone like Scooter (or his clones) is to possibly prevent enjoyment of the music. I never liked so-called "techno" until, in 1999 while driving a taxi to pay for school, I heard an ethereal guitar riff in the midst of a radio show featuring a dance music live broadcast from a local club. That guitar riff evolved into an incredible song and, while I was driving I was simply blown away. I had never heard anything even remotely electronic that had ever given me instant chills. I drove over to the club and paid the cover, went inside, wormed my way to the DJ booth and asked the DJ, "What was that song? The one with the guitar!"
He wrote it on a napkin, "Seven Cities, by Solarstone." That was the beginning of my exploration into electronic music that I previously and ignorantly bundled in the same breath as C&C Music factory and Enigma.
My point is that to discount an entire mega-genre of music based simply on a single club outing or some melted-cheese crap song, is to potentially miss out on something that might inspire you or even make you smile. Seven Cities did it for me. For me, that song was like hearing my first Beach Boys record at age five with my mom..
If anyone wants to hear Seven Cities, here's the link to Solarstone's Myspace. I don't expect everyone to like it, but in 1999, this song did it for me. Also, if you like The Killers, go visit my friend Dave Dresden's page. His group remixed "Read My Mind." It's the last song on his player.. it's one of the better examples of what's going on with EDM these days.
Solarstone's Myspace Page: www.myspace.com/solarstone2006
Dave Dresden's Myspace Page: www.myspace.com/davedresden
For guitar rock fans, one of my old friends from Houston has a new rock band.. It features a former member of Buckcherry; go listen to The Getaway Car: www.myspace.com/thegetawaycarband |
Who are you talking to? Really I don't think anyone is using Scooter as an example of why dance music is bad. We are just saying scooter sucks. I would extend that to much anthemic trance music personally. But i don't think anybody said, "Scooter sucks..therefore all dance music sucks".
I'm not sure I ever had a dance epiphany moment because I heard it from a very young age. As I mentioned my brother was a massive fan. He had decks and a shit load of records so I had a pretty high knowledge early on. None of those records were scooter records. Scooter was never in my experience popular amongst adults, which was my point. |
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