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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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 Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: You didn't play that right! |
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Situation: Playing poker with" friends"
You win: but somehow it wasn't the way they would have played the hand.
Result: Anger from the losing player. And it wasn't the first time from this group.
I don't get it. They were either bluffed out, were trying to bluff. Whatever. It's poker, cards , gambling.
I thought that when you lose you supposed to be knocked down a notch or two; and feeling bad about being stupid enough to lose? Where is this latching out and blaming thing coming from?
The next Cho?
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Were they angry b/c they were drunk?
Don't they understand poker? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| regi, it was because they've read all the books and expect you to play "classic" poker. This is my theory as to why so many inexperienced people have done so well in recent years. |
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mikowee
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a common reaction for newbies learning the game and the so-called 'right' plays. Controlling your emotions is always the hardest part of playing poker, at least for me. My friends and I have experienced plenty of suckouts and have been on tilt countless times. You can't get completely immune to it, but it does mellow out over time. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| regi, it was because they've read all the books and expect you to play "classic" poker. This is my theory as to why so many inexperienced people have done so well in recent years. |
I agree. That's the only thing that explains how Jennifer Tilly is a world poker champion. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| regi, it was because they've read all the books and expect you to play "classic" poker. This is my theory as to why so many inexperienced people have done so well in recent years. |
Another aspect of the game I would like to address is the pace. I can not remember such impatience when I used to play poker back home with friends. How can you make an immediate decision in some situations? In blackjack it is automatic for me and I know what to do without hesitation, but I am just not there yet in poker, and also, I have seen more experienced players hesitate in some situations. Is there any time limit in the rules? What is the deal on this impatience?
The level of rudeness amazes me for a simple game. For people making a lot of money where this can not be a big deal moneywise, where is the intensity coming from?
I don't get uptight over a $50 pot. After playing the forex market for big bucks, as well as stock option and stock day trading, I just don't get a big rush over a low limit game like these. But I don't want to make a rash decision either, and I am not talking about minutes, just a few extra seconds without a rude comment from some grown adult about how long I am taking. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: You didn't play that right! |
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| regicide wrote: |
Situation: Playing poker with" friends"
You win: but somehow it wasn't the way they would have played the hand.
Result: Anger from the losing player. And it wasn't the first time from this group.
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You need some new "friends". |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: You didn't play that right! |
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| regicide wrote: |
You win: but somehow it wasn't the way they would have played the hand.
Result: Anger from the losing player. And it wasn't the first time from this group. |
If you won, then exactly how did you not play it right. Sounds like you played it perfectly.
As for the getting angry if you "take too long"... I'd do it deliberately every time just to get them riled. A riled opponent makes a lot more stupid mistakes than some calm and focused. Emotional decisions are bad decisions when it comes to poker. Well, bad for them, anyway; good for me. |
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Drunken Monkey
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Sounds to me as though the people you are playing with need to learn a bit more themselves.
New / bad players in poker are known as fish, and there is a term "dont tap the tank" this means if a fish makes a bad play and takes money off you then keep quiet, or even congratulate them, this will encourage them to keep playing and the next time he makes the same "mistake" you can take the money back...and hopefully more.
If you "tap the tank" like these guys are doing, the chance are the new player wont want to play anymore and their money is lost for good.
I suggest you get a new group of players to play with. If not next time they get mad at you just tell them "dont tap the tank!" and smile, that should really wind them up and put them on tilt! |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| Drunken Monkey wrote: |
If you "tap the tank" like these guys are doing, the chance are the new player wont want to play anymore and their money is lost for good.
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Your comments are interesting because I actually walked off the game with nearly 40% of the original buy in( of the whole table) it left them with just 60% of the money to fight over, after the third , and very angry comments about my play. ( wins) I will never play with these guys again so their money is indeed lost forever. The reason that I left is because I could have lost everything if I continued to play because I was riled. Plus I was not having a good time anymore.
The guy actually screamed as I was cashing out" now he is using this as an excuse to leave the table" The guy has issues and the look on his face when I went All-In was scary. " you slow played me" he said. Actually, I did not. My hand didn't work out and I was bluffing. Didn't tell him that because I thought I was still going to stay in the game.
There was so much table talk about the details of every hand. I thought you were not supposed to do that. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| There was so much table talk about the details of every hand. I thought you were not supposed to do that. |
It's a sign they are a bunch of amateurs that have no clue what they are doing or how to play. The "table talk" should be in your head as you learn from what you did wrong in the hand that was just played.
What a bunch of losers. I would have stayed just to crush them, just out of spite. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like they are bad losers. If he folded to your push on the river then you didn't suck out, but out played him. I've played for a long time online, and the single hardest thing to learn imo is to lay down good cards. AA to 3 undercards and the fish plays it like a set, (coldcalled, checked the flop, calls, checks the turn, then reraises allin), it normally is a set. Takes a long time to not just call to see. I play mostly 6 players cash games and have been sucked out horribly many many times. the last thing u want is for whatever uber donk just took your money to leave the table, so I never say anything.
Here it sounds like you made a good play and he was pissed. Some guys can't handle aggressive poker. you made a read on him figured out he would fold to a push, cos you played your draw like a made hand, it looked like you were slowplaying(as far as i can tell). I push the river on busted draws all the time(depending on the player, flop etc). Tell him to stop being such a whiny bitch and see if you can tilt him. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
Sounds like they are bad losers. If he folded to your push on the river then you didn't suck out, but out played him. I've played for a long time online, and the single hardest thing to learn imo is to lay down good cards. AA to 3 undercards and the fish plays it like a set, (coldcalled, checked the flop, calls, checks the turn, then reraises allin), it normally is a set. Takes a long time to not just call to see. I play mostly 6 players cash games and have been sucked out horribly many many times. the last thing u want is for whatever uber donk just took your money to leave the table, so I never say anything.
Here it sounds like you made a good play and he was pissed. Some guys can't handle aggressive poker. you made a read on him figured out he would fold to a push, cos you played your draw like a made hand, it looked like you were slowplaying(as far as i can tell). I push the river on busted draws all the time(depending on the player, flop etc). Tell him to stop being such a whiny *beep* and see if you can tilt him. |
Another hand I had pocket Kings, but ended up with a straight on the river. I was betting my Kings but was starting to back down, but then decided the pot was was worth some risk as a lot of players had called on previous hands.
It went down to the river with two of us. With cards on the table, and me the dealer , I made my outside straight. He had trips. The loser was mad about that too ( another person) , and gave me a bunch of shit about that one. He didnt understand why I stayed in with an outside straight. As I said , there was a lot of money on the table.
I knew that guy and he was accoss the table from me and didn't look like a lunatic. I did say "why are you giving me shit about winning this hand?" though and he said , " I didnt see your possible straight" too late , he had already spoken and set the tone for the night. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
Sounds like they are bad losers. If he folded to your push on the river then you didn't suck out, but out played him. I've played for a long time online, and the single hardest thing to learn imo is to lay down good cards. AA to 3 undercards and the fish plays it like a set, (coldcalled, checked the flop, calls, checks the turn, then reraises allin), it normally is a set. Takes a long time to not just call to see. I play mostly 6 players cash games and have been sucked out horribly many many times. the last thing u want is for whatever uber donk just took your money to leave the table, so I never say anything.
Here it sounds like you made a good play and he was pissed. Some guys can't handle aggressive poker. you made a read on him figured out he would fold to a push, cos you played your draw like a made hand, it looked like you were slowplaying(as far as i can tell). I push the river on busted draws all the time(depending on the player, flop etc). Tell him to stop being such a whiny *beep* and see if you can tilt him. |
Another hand I had pocket Kings, but ended up with a straight on the river. I was betting my Kings but was starting to back down, but then decided the pot was was worth some risk as a lot of players had called on previous hands.
It went down to the river with two of us. With cards on the table, and me the dealer , I made my outside straight. He had trips. The loser was mad about that too ( another person) , and gave me a bunch of *beep* about that one. He didnt understand why I stayed in with an outside straight. As I said , there was a lot of money on the table.
I knew that guy and he was accoss the table from me and didn't look like a lunatic. I did say "why are you giving me *beep* about winning this hand?" though and he said , " I didnt see your possible straight" too late , he had already spoken and set the tone for the night. |
Yea if there is a straight draws out there you have to make the bets big..sounds like he was just calling with set when he should heve been raising. why do ppl always do this. Unless you have the nuts, don;t slowplay, bet to give ppl bad odds on the draw. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Screw 'em. It is apparent that they were completely ill-prepared to play against someone that actually knows how. If they got pissed that you weren't playing their way, and you won, then maybe it's time the re-evaluate the way that they play.
There are two types of poker players: winners and losers. |
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