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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: Gwangju Massacre Anniversary |
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| Kinda surprised nobody has mentioned the anniversary of the massacre. I guess it has been done to death... |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Just remember that it was America's fault.  |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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KwangJu has always been a hotbed.
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kingtout
Joined: 03 May 2007
Location: ROK...again...
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe more than any other city in Korea, they really seem to interchange the K and G more than say, Gangnam. I rarely see it written Kangnam. That's my only opinion on this. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
So was the War of Independence. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| swetepete wrote: |
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| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
So was the War of Independence. |
if that floats your boat. Except the War of Independence wasnt organized by communist agents seeking to destablize a country. |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| swetepete wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
So was the War of Independence. |
if that floats your boat. Except the War of Independence wasnt organized by communist agents seeking to destablize a country. |
The country was destabilizing itself just fine without Nork agitators.
Do you think they weren't pro-democracy protesters? Or do you think they were pro-democracy protesters, but were being misled and steered by Nork agitators? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| swetepete wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| swetepete wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
So was the War of Independence. |
if that floats your boat. Except the War of Independence wasnt organized by communist agents seeking to destablize a country. |
The country was destabilizing itself just fine without Nork agitators.
Do you think they weren't pro-democracy protesters? Or do you think they were pro-democracy protesters, but were being misled and steered by Nork agitators? |
I dont think they were pro-democracy demonstrators. I think that "pro-democracy" in South Korea has always really meant pro-Pyongyang. Just look at how the "pro democrracy" leaders have ruled this country: 2 totally failed administrations in a row. bend over for Uncle Jong-Il |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| swetepete wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| swetepete wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
So was the War of Independence. |
if that floats your boat. Except the War of Independence wasnt organized by communist agents seeking to destablize a country. |
The country was destabilizing itself just fine without Nork agitators.
Do you think they weren't pro-democracy protesters? Or do you think they were pro-democracy protesters, but were being misled and steered by Nork agitators? |
I dont think they were pro-democracy demonstrators. I think that "pro-democracy" in South Korea has always really meant pro-Pyongyang. Just look at how the "pro democrracy" leaders have ruled this country: 2 totally failed administrations in a row. bend over for Uncle Jong-Il |
Well, they haven't been a democracy for very long. I hope and believe that their government will continue to become more transparent and more representative of public opinion.
I think a lot of the protesters were sympathetic to the North Koreans, and many erroneously believed the DPRK was some sort of worker's paradise candyland funfair. But to say that all the protesters were commies is a gross and inaccurate generalization, and to accuse the whole 1970's-80's movement as 'bending over for uncle Jong-Il' based on the record of two administrations that came to power twenty years later seems a little illogical. If the last two Presidents are indeed buttering up for a little Nork fleischpikkel, it doesn't necessarily follow that democracy itself--or the aspiration towards it--is to blame. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Your post doesnt follow.
As I said, it was not a pro-democracy movement. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| swetepete wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| It was not a massacre, it was a government quelling an illegal rebellion. |
So was the War of Independence. |
Yeah, and look how that turned out. If only the British had machine guns. |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
Your post doesnt follow.
As I said, it was not a pro-democracy movement. |
I think it was. What did you call it? 'An illegal uprising?' Well, it was that as well. But when the government taxes you unfairly and gives you no representation, what else can a freedom loving patriot do but rise up and fight back? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Your post doesnt follow.
As I said, it was not a pro-democracy movement. |
Then what was it?
And I recall you said you liked Park Junghee, but what about Chun Doohwan? It's hard to paint him as anything but a monster. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
Your post doesnt follow.
As I said, it was not a pro-democracy movement. |
Then what was it?
And I recall you said you liked Park Junghee, but what about Chun Doohwan? It's hard to paint him as anything but a monster. |
yes, I like park Junghee. And I agree about Chun, but Kwangju had nothing to do with him, really. |
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