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Dokdo battle spills onto Wikipedia
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Dokdo battle spills onto Wikipedia Reply with quote

A natural enough place for it, I guess. But it's a new move for a reporter -- not opinion columnist -- to send his readers into battle. Read all about it at Korea Beat:

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However, it appears that the conclusion of the balloting will be to change Wikipedia�s formal designation of Dokdo to �Liancourt Rocks�. A large number of Japanese are writing insisting that the name �Liancourt Rocks� be used instead of the name used by the internationally nearly powerless Korea.

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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Dokdo battle spills onto Wikipedia Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
A natural enough place for it, I guess. But it's a new move for a reporter -- not opinion columnist -- to send his readers into battle. Read all about it at Korea Beat:

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However, it appears that the conclusion of the balloting will be to change Wikipedia�s formal designation of Dokdo to �Liancourt Rocks�. A large number of Japanese are writing insisting that the name �Liancourt Rocks� be used instead of the name used by the internationally nearly powerless Korea.

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You can participate in voting after going to Wikipedia�s homepage and logging in.


Ah the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" voting strategy.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a vote but a discussion...and it's locked right now because one of the higher ranking members noticed that a lot of 'votes' being left for Dokdo had no comments to them, a sign that non-native speakers of English (ie. Koreans) were freeping.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the newspaper article really messed up in giving the impression that this was a vote that people could spam like the Time 100. Here are some of my favourite comments:

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Support WHO HAVE MOST CONCERN ABOUT THIS ISSUE? IF NAME HAS CHANGED, WHO'S GONNA HAVE MORE TERRITORY IN THE EAST SEA? WHY THERE WERE WORLD WAR 2?

Support Dockdo is belong to Korea. Japan is very bad to steal dockdo. Let's punish Japan and keep Dokdo!!

Support Why? Name of dokdo is that argue some? dokdo is dokdo.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Support Why? Name of dokdo is that argue some? dokdo is dokdo.


Gotta love nationalism, Konglish style.

Can anyone here give us a short-version description on (a) Japan's claims to Dokdo; (b) South Korea's claims to Dokdo; and (c) what fabulous prizes await whoever ultimately gains Dokdo as a possession...?
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although some people on this board don't seem to like www.occidentalism.org it has excellent information on the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute. Gerry Beavers has done his homework clearly.

In my opinion, Korea's arguments amount to nothing. This is not because I hate Korea. It is simply because they really don't have any real evidence to claim Dokdo. They are using it as a political device to whip up Nationalism and hatred for Japan. Sort of like the Falkland islands and Argentina. It will only lead to disaster for Korea.
Check it out anyway and make up your own mind.
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Although some people on this board don't seem to like www.occidentalism.org it has excellent information on the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute. Gerry Beavers has done his homework clearly.


And a great pity that he has paid dearly for it here in Korea. It's not just the Dokdo issue; in Wikipedia, there are fights everywhere. The East Sea/Sea of Japan; Imjin War/Hideyoshi's Invasion of Korea; bungeoppang/taiyaki among many others.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Although some people on this board don't seem to like www.occidentalism.org it has excellent information on the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute. Gerry Beavers has done his homework clearly.

In my opinion, Korea's arguments amount to nothing. This is not because I hate Korea. It is simply because they really don't have any real evidence to claim Dokdo. They are using it as a political device to whip up Nationalism and hatred for Japan. Sort of like the Falkland islands and Argentina. It will only lead to disaster for Korea.
Check it out anyway and make up your own mind.


The only evidence it needs is that Korean cops/soldiers are there 24/7. Right or wrong (more of it is wrong than right), the rest is just agitprop.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Although some people on this board don't seem to like www.occidentalism.org it has excellent information on the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute. Gerry Beavers has done his homework clearly.

In my opinion, Korea's arguments amount to nothing. This is not because I hate Korea. It is simply because they really don't have any real evidence to claim Dokdo. They are using it as a political device to whip up Nationalism and hatred for Japan. Sort of like the Falkland islands and Argentina. It will only lead to disaster for Korea.
Check it out anyway and make up your own mind.


Japan lost any claims after the end of WWII. Korea has claimed it, backed up their claims with an occupation, and good for them.

The Japanese can argue about it all they like, but they're wasting their time. Korea will never be forced diplomatically to "give back" Dokdo.

If the Japanese want it they will have to take it, which isn't going to happen. That makes the argument pretty pointless.

Dokdo is part of Korea, end of story.
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