View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
|
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: tap water in the drip coffee maker... heavy metals or no? |
|
|
i am not entirely sure of the mechanical principles of a drip coffee maker. do they boil the water and then drip it onto the coffee grounds or do they simply heat the water... suck it up and then drip it onto the coffee grounds... ?
so far i've been using bottled water to make my coffee but if i could save a bit of cash and still be safe from the dreaded heavy metals in Korean tap water i figure why not...
 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
|
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Boiling does not 'kill' heavy metals. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
ruffie

Joined: 11 Oct 2006
|
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You can't boil out mercury or cadmium, and the heat of the coffee maker isn't enough to kill the other nasties. Keep using bottled water. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
polonius

Joined: 05 Jun 2004
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
Coffee makers do not boil water. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm thinking he means, does the coffee maker boil the water, and collect the water vapor (via condensation) to use in the coffee, or is it just heated and sucked up in a straw?
OP: Keep using spring water.
Technically, wouldn't boiling water get rid of heavy metals? If you setup a system that would collect the water vapors and condense them down, the resulting water would be heavy metal free. Its a little fuzzy, but I seem to remember in chemistry class things like Metals, Salts, etc... are too heavy to be carried in water vapor. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
pkang0202 wrote: |
I'm thinking he means, does the coffee maker boil the water, and collect the water vapor (via condensation) to use in the coffee, or is it just heated and sucked up in a straw?
OP: Keep using spring water.
Technically, wouldn't boiling water get rid of heavy metals? If you setup a system that would collect the water vapors and condense them down, the resulting water would be heavy metal free. Its a little fuzzy, but I seem to remember in chemistry class things like Metals, Salts, etc... are too heavy to be carried in water vapor. |
Yeah, this is what I meant. It seems like the water would evaporate and then recondense metal free... i dunno.
Bottled water it is. Thanks y'all. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
dogshed

Joined: 28 Apr 2006
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
Making steam and condensing it is distillation. That does involve boiling but when people say they are boiling the water they usually mean they are going to use the water that does not turn into steam.
Distillation can still retain some contaminants because a certain amount of the contaminants will themselves evaporate and condense. You also have to think about contaminants that can be introduced during condensation. There are lots of places for nasty bugs to grow. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: Heavy Metals |
|
|
The only way to get rid of heavy metals & other water contaminants is reverse osmosis. Much cheaper to use bottled water. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
I don't think there are particularly toxic levels of heavy metals in Seoul's tap water. Anyone have any stats? Koreans seem no worse for wear. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
Keep using bottled water. It gets aggravating having to buy so much bottled water, but it's better than nasty tap water. The husband/wife that run the little mart close to my apartment tease me about always coming in their shop and buying 4 bottles of water at a time. The lady asked me if I liked water. I told her I cook with it, etc.  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
princess wrote: |
Keep using bottled water. It gets aggravating having to buy so much bottled water, but it's better than nasty tap water. The husband/wife that run the little mart close to my apartment tease me about always coming in their shop and buying 4 bottles of water at a time. The lady asked me if I liked water. I told her I cook with it, etc.  |
I don't like the taste of the water here straight from the tap. I cook with it and brew coffee with it, however. Korean life expectancy is pretty high these days. If their water was notably dangerous, even over the long run, you'd think you'd see it in the life expectancy stats. No? Assuming there are elevated levels compared to the west, given we're here for short periods of time, I doubt you can accumulate a toxic load of heavy metals given Koreans don't seem to living their whole life here.
And are you sure bottle water contains less toxins than tap water?
http://www.nrdc.org/water/drinking/bw/exesum.asp
More to the point, do you think Korean bottled water has any extra level of care? Are you aware of any safety standard in Korea that exceeds that of the west?
In short, chill out. Drink bottled water if you like the taste but don't throw away money on bottled water for cooking/brushing your teeth etc if you think the tap water is dangerous. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
|
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: Heavy metals |
|
|
I've read in Lonely Planet Korea, that there are minute traces of heavy metals in the tap water. They said it's okay to brush your teeth in, but ingesting large quantities of water over a long period of time is not good for your health. Plus I wonder how much of those fumigation sprays for mosquitoes, find their way into local reservoirs? Someone answered a question for me last year on exactly what was in the sprays, & it was a pretty lethal c0cktail of chemicals from memory, albeit in small doses. I'll be sticking to bottled water. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Heavy metals |
|
|
chris_J2 wrote: |
I've read in Lonely Planet Korea, that there are minute traces of heavy metals in the tap water. |
Well, there's a definitive source. Anything on the web that compares Korea's tap water to western tap water? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
|
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
tap water is fine. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|