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tap water in the drip coffee maker... heavy metals or no?
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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: tap water in the drip coffee maker... heavy metals or no? Reply with quote

i am not entirely sure of the mechanical principles of a drip coffee maker. do they boil the water and then drip it onto the coffee grounds or do they simply heat the water... suck it up and then drip it onto the coffee grounds... ?

so far i've been using bottled water to make my coffee but if i could save a bit of cash and still be safe from the dreaded heavy metals in Korean tap water i figure why not...

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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boiling does not 'kill' heavy metals.
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ruffie



Joined: 11 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't boil out mercury or cadmium, and the heat of the coffee maker isn't enough to kill the other nasties. Keep using bottled water.
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coffee makers do not boil water.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking he means, does the coffee maker boil the water, and collect the water vapor (via condensation) to use in the coffee, or is it just heated and sucked up in a straw?

OP: Keep using spring water.

Technically, wouldn't boiling water get rid of heavy metals? If you setup a system that would collect the water vapors and condense them down, the resulting water would be heavy metal free. Its a little fuzzy, but I seem to remember in chemistry class things like Metals, Salts, etc... are too heavy to be carried in water vapor.
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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I'm thinking he means, does the coffee maker boil the water, and collect the water vapor (via condensation) to use in the coffee, or is it just heated and sucked up in a straw?

OP: Keep using spring water.

Technically, wouldn't boiling water get rid of heavy metals? If you setup a system that would collect the water vapors and condense them down, the resulting water would be heavy metal free. Its a little fuzzy, but I seem to remember in chemistry class things like Metals, Salts, etc... are too heavy to be carried in water vapor.


Yeah, this is what I meant. It seems like the water would evaporate and then recondense metal free... i dunno.

Bottled water it is. Thanks y'all.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making steam and condensing it is distillation. That does involve boiling but when people say they are boiling the water they usually mean they are going to use the water that does not turn into steam.

Distillation can still retain some contaminants because a certain amount of the contaminants will themselves evaporate and condense. You also have to think about contaminants that can be introduced during condensation. There are lots of places for nasty bugs to grow.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:36 am    Post subject: Heavy Metals Reply with quote

The only way to get rid of heavy metals & other water contaminants is reverse osmosis. Much cheaper to use bottled water.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there are particularly toxic levels of heavy metals in Seoul's tap water. Anyone have any stats? Koreans seem no worse for wear.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep using bottled water. It gets aggravating having to buy so much bottled water, but it's better than nasty tap water. The husband/wife that run the little mart close to my apartment tease me about always coming in their shop and buying 4 bottles of water at a time. The lady asked me if I liked water. Rolling Eyes I told her I cook with it, etc. Rolling Eyes
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkUbW15ty70
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Keep using bottled water. It gets aggravating having to buy so much bottled water, but it's better than nasty tap water. The husband/wife that run the little mart close to my apartment tease me about always coming in their shop and buying 4 bottles of water at a time. The lady asked me if I liked water. Rolling Eyes I told her I cook with it, etc. Rolling Eyes


I don't like the taste of the water here straight from the tap. I cook with it and brew coffee with it, however. Korean life expectancy is pretty high these days. If their water was notably dangerous, even over the long run, you'd think you'd see it in the life expectancy stats. No? Assuming there are elevated levels compared to the west, given we're here for short periods of time, I doubt you can accumulate a toxic load of heavy metals given Koreans don't seem to living their whole life here.

And are you sure bottle water contains less toxins than tap water?

http://www.nrdc.org/water/drinking/bw/exesum.asp

More to the point, do you think Korean bottled water has any extra level of care? Are you aware of any safety standard in Korea that exceeds that of the west?

In short, chill out. Drink bottled water if you like the taste but don't throw away money on bottled water for cooking/brushing your teeth etc if you think the tap water is dangerous.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Heavy metals Reply with quote

I've read in Lonely Planet Korea, that there are minute traces of heavy metals in the tap water. They said it's okay to brush your teeth in, but ingesting large quantities of water over a long period of time is not good for your health. Plus I wonder how much of those fumigation sprays for mosquitoes, find their way into local reservoirs? Someone answered a question for me last year on exactly what was in the sprays, & it was a pretty lethal c0cktail of chemicals from memory, albeit in small doses. I'll be sticking to bottled water.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: Heavy metals Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
I've read in Lonely Planet Korea, that there are minute traces of heavy metals in the tap water.


Well, there's a definitive source. Anything on the web that compares Korea's tap water to western tap water?
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tap water is fine.
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