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600,000 won housing deposit deducted from 1st pay cheque

 
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espo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: 600,000 won housing deposit deducted from 1st pay cheque Reply with quote

Have a friend who is coming to the end of his contract and it looks like his director is holding back on re-reimbursing him for the housing deposit that was deducted from his first two paycheck's. Apparently bills that have been payed are being disputed! Firstly I seem to remember reading elsewhere on this site that deducted housing deposits are illegal, secondly any advice on directors trying to screw ya over saying that bills that have been payed at the bank every month by the teacher have been payed by him too...?
Thanks in advance peeps!
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: 600,000 won housing deposit deducted from 1st pay cheque Reply with quote

espo wrote:
Firstly I seem to remember reading elsewhere on this site that deducted housing deposits are illegal

If the deposit is mentioned in the contract that was signed, too bad nothing you can do.
If the deposit is NOT mentioned in the contract signed, go to Labor and get it back.

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any advice on directors trying to screw ya over saying that bills that have been payed at the bank every month by the teacher have been payed by him too...?

you should still have receipts and entries in the bankbook that correspond to the payments. Show them to the boss.
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 600,000 won housing deposit deducted from 1st pay cheque Reply with quote

espo wrote:
secondly any advice on directors trying to screw ya over saying that bills that have been payed at the bank every month by the teacher have been payed by him too...?
Thanks in advance peeps!


If the bills had been paid twice in a month (by teacher and by employer) .. This would have been clear to the teacher when next months bill was received .. because the bill account would have been in Credit by the amount which was overpaid the month before ...

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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: This is the problem... Reply with quote

This is the problem with most places...The employee can actually take the bills down to the bank and pay them their self and it doesn't require a good speaking ability using Korean...Owners have used this method of paying for so long to pay their other bills at the expense of the employee that it is really sickening...

Here is all that happens:

    1. You receive the bills by mail in your postal box if they are sent to your apartment

    2. You take the bills with you to your local bank

    3. You politely smile and place the bills in the little tray along with the money you owe when you go to the bank cashier (she will probably smile back)

    4. You watch the cashier go onto the computer which is hooked up for the entire country to do electronic transfer of money you are paying.

    5. The casheir gives you any change you have coming and will put it along with a receipt in the little tray (She will probably smile when she does this)

    6. You smile and say thank you or if you know how to say it in Korean all the better.


I got ripped out of money on more than one occasion until I got wise and told the owner of the hagwon I worked at I would pay my own bills...

After that there was never an issue, because I was in control of my money and not the hagwon owner...
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: This is the problem... Reply with quote

tob55 wrote:
This is the problem with most places...The employee can actually take the bills down to the bank and pay them their self and it doesn't require a good speaking ability using Korean...Owners have used this method of paying for so long to pay their other bills at the expense of the employee that it is really sickening...

I got ripped out of money on more than one occasion until I got wise and told the owner of the hagwon I worked at I would pay my own bills...

After that there was never an issue, because I was in control of my money and not the hagwon owner...


I thought that the problem which was raised by the OP was that his friend had paid the bills for himself ... and the employer was now saying that he "the employer" had paid the bills as well ...

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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the employer is lying. If he had paid them, there would be a credit balance on the following month's bill.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
the employer is lying. If he had paid them, there would be a credit balance on the following month's bill.

AND the employer could show receipts.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Understanding.. Reply with quote

Paying the bills the op is probably talking about is the bring your money to them and they pay them that normally takes place...In the vast majority of places the employer says "bring the bills to us and we'll tell you how much you owe." been there, done that, got screwed

IF the OP had actually paid the bills theirself, then it would not be an issue because as the other posters mentioned he could simply show them the receipts, but with no receipt except the one the owner conventiantly lost, there is no proof the OP can point to...
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will never understand these pathetic Koreans who screw you out of small money (20,000).
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
I will never understand these pathetic Koreans who screw you out of small money (20,000).


Agreed. It just shows how low class and petty hogwan owners and directors can be. Rolling Eyes
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Re: Understanding.. Reply with quote

tob55 wrote:
"bring the bills to us and we'll tell you how much you owe." been there, done that, got screwed

If you hve the bills, how do you get scrwed? You can see how much you owe printed right there on the bills. Now if the bills are mailed directly to the school/boss, then THAT is easy to be ripped off, especially if they refuse to show you receipts.

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IF the OP had actually paid the bills theirself, then it would not be an issue because as the other posters mentioned he could simply show them the receipts, but with no receipt except the one the owner conventiantly lost, there is no proof the OP can point to...

Call the utility company and get a copy of past payments made.

Anyway, the easiest way not to get ripped off this way is to (1) have the bills mailed to YOUR place, not the boss', and (2) go to the bank and have the bills auto-paid, so you never even have to step foot inside the bank to pay your bills, and no reason for the boss to pay them for you.
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With KT I called the English speaking person and she provided me with an account number customers could transfer money to when they needed to pay their phone bills. I sat down with my banker and had him do it for me. He provided a receipt as well.
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