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F Visa and early contract termination question

 
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: F Visa and early contract termination question Reply with quote

So, if you are on an F Visa, and you don't need a sponsor or letter of release, how do you go about leaving your job?

Do you just hand your boss a 2 week notice?
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're being screwed, just pack up and tell them you're leaving after you get paid.

If you're not being screwed, give them 30 days notice.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your VISA may not be sponsored by the school, but you are still bound by the terms of the contract you signed. If your contract says 30 days, you must give 30 days. If it says otherwise, follow it. Since you're probably gonna be staying in-country, they could file a lawsuit if you break the contract. It's not probable, but it's a possibility.

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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: F Visa and early contract termination question Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
So, if you are on an F Visa, and you don't need a sponsor or letter of release, how do you go about leaving your job?

Do you just hand your boss a 2 week notice?


If your boss is nice and is not likely to screw you out of your last pay, then give notice.

If your boss is an ass, wait till you get paid and then say good-bye. Walk down the street and find a new job.

Your period of unemployment should be about 30 minutes.
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: F Visa and early contract termination question Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
So, if you are on an F Visa, and you don't need a sponsor or letter of release, how do you go about leaving your job?

Do you just hand your boss a 2 week notice?


If your boss is nice and is not likely to screw you out of your last pay, then give notice.

If your boss is an ass, wait till you get paid and then say good-bye. Walk down the street and find a new job.

Your period of unemployment should be about 30 minutes.


With F visa you don't have no headaches like the e-2 people. Just get paid and text them saying I don't feel like being F by you guys. But 30 days would be best. But nothing they can really do. and like ttompatz said your unemployment should be about 30 minutes, 45 if stuck in traffic.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm at a public school so would I be "blacklisted" by the school? I want a public school gig in Seoul because SMOE's contract is a lot better than GEPIK's. I've tried to renogtiate with my school, but they are VERY strict and by the book. They say "Its not in the contract so we can't give you anything thats not in there."

SMOE's vacation plus extra vacation for doing camps is just too good to give up.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: F2 / F4 Reply with quote

Remember, they really have no control over your employment status as an F2 or F4 so you can do what your conscience will allow you to do...If you are sure never to cross their paths again, take your liberty to do what is in your best interest...However, as others have said 30 days notice is the best route if it can be done amicably...
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I'm at a public school so would I be "blacklisted" by the school? I want a public school gig in Seoul because SMOE's contract is a lot better than GEPIK's. I've tried to renogtiate with my school, but they are VERY strict and by the book. They say "Its not in the contract so we can't give you anything thats not in there."

SMOE's vacation plus extra vacation for doing camps is just too good to give up.


Yes, they can blacklist you at their school., They may refuse to re-hire you at the same school. Opps. Like who cares.

If they are nice, then 30 days notice, if they are not, then 30 seconds notice.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking at the SMOE application now and there's a question that says "In the past 5 years, have you ever broken a contract. If yes, please explain why?"

I'm gonna check yes, but do you think that will disqualify me for a SMOE position?
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HAITAITIGERZ



Joined: 17 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't check yes ... would you hire anyone who broke a contract ???probably best to never mention where you worked so they can't call them to verify ... keep it clean ... rather say i am new and this is my first job as opposed to saying i have experience but i broke contract ... lying is bad so make up for it by giving ur current school 30 days notice or until they find another teacher ...
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I'm looking at the SMOE application now and there's a question that says "In the past 5 years, have you ever broken a contract. If yes, please explain why?"

I'm gonna check yes, but do you think that will disqualify me for a SMOE position?


Haven't your current school broken anything in the contract? I'm sure they have. Make up something.

In that case, you didn't break the contract, they did. So the answer is "NO."
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boyne11 wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
I'm looking at the SMOE application now and there's a question that says "In the past 5 years, have you ever broken a contract. If yes, please explain why?"

I'm gonna check yes, but do you think that will disqualify me for a SMOE position?


Haven't your current school broken anything in the contract? I'm sure they have. Make up something.

In that case, you didn't break the contract, they did. So the answer is "NO."


They did tell me a weekend camp was mandatory when my contract explicitly states that I don't work weekends. I did the camp not wanting to stir things up by refusing.
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