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If same-sex marriage, why not polygamy?
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enns



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: If same-sex marriage, why not polygamy? Reply with quote
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, I don't see anything wrong with polygamy, if the people involved are happy with it. Bugger knows I need another wife to help me with the kids! But if my husband had another wife like me, he'd be a burnt out shell in a matter of weeks. Wink
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is a fair question. I don't have an answer for it. I do have a gripe about the article.

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Same-sex marriage opens up the possibility of polygamy because it detaches marriage from the biological reality of the basic procreative relationship between one man and one woman and that means there is no longer any inherent reason to limit it to two people whether of the same or opposite sex. Once that biological reality is removed as the central, essential feature and �limiting device,� marriage can become whatever we choose to define it as.


The "biological reality" is that man is a polygamous animal. The majority of cultures in the world are polygamous. Powerful, high status men have many women. Low status men have one or less. In our case, monogamy is the social construct. Matt Ridley has a good discussion of this in The Red Queen.

I've come around on this issue a little, vis a vie the social usefulness of monogamy. Consider this post a vote for gay marriage and against polygamy.
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Atavistic



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
One does not need to be married to do the biological baby having thing. One does not need to do the biological baby having thing if one is married. (Look at numerous married Republicans without children who claim marriage is for procreation.)

This tired bullshit argument needs to be put to sleep. Unless you want to forcibly divorce all couples who are married for five years without children. Then the argument can stand.
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merkurix



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Morals and religion aside, polygamy can have some serious natural consequences.
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The_Conservative



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wonder where those people are who argued that legalizing gay marriage wouldn't open the door to this kind of thing?
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think men might like the idea of it initially, but when they really consider it, and recognise that only a minority of men would benefit, while a majority of men would be disadvantaged, they're probably going to oppose it. It's hard to see it being legalised.
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enns



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Alias



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polygamy has been proven to be harmful. Same-Sex marriage has not.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its not broken so why fix it?
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Bird wrote:
Yes, I don't see anything wrong with polygamy, if the people involved are happy with it. Bugger knows I need another wife to help me with the kids! But if my husband had another wife like me, he'd be a burnt out shell in a matter of weeks. Wink


What about a woman who wants two husbands, then? I think that has happened in the past. I am not an advocate of polygamy. I don't think allowing gay unions can be compared with the idea of allowing polygamy.
Polygamy was something down in the ancient past out of necessity. At least, that's where it came from. Men died in combat fighting other Semitic tribes. What were the women to do? They also wanted to produce more sons. So it was not simply some religious sanction for it that existed in the past. It was part of ensuring the tribe was stable and survived.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Adventurer wrote:</