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Oedae language school - Buk gu, Daegu

 
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Oedae language school - Buk gu, Daegu Reply with quote

Can any of you good folks give me a lowdown on this fine establishment?

It is in Buk gu in Daegu, lots of good reports but I know I can trust the folks on here and their opinions. Very Happy

Ta very much!


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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again.
One thing i dislike about Oedae's curriculum, is that you have to call each of your students, and have a telephone 'conversation' with them every Wednesday night.
It's like trying to pull out teeth.

Maybe things have changed, but it was part of the deal a couple years ago.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
Hi again.
One thing i dislike about Oedae's curriculum, is that you have to call each of your students, and have a telephone 'conversation' with them every Wednesday night.
It's like trying to pull out teeth.

Maybe things have changed, but it was part of the deal a couple years ago.


Hello Eye!

I read your scary post about your first trip to Korea with Oedae - Mancheon Dong, it isn't the same school is it?

Is the tie wearing in class still order of the day? Shocked

The director and the recruiters (kimnjoe) have promised emails of the American and Canadian teachers working there at present so the red flags are not flying... yet!
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it isn't the same branch. I don't know anything about that one, but it's good that you have some questions to ask teachers there.
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storysinger81



Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for another Oedae in Daegu and we don't have to call students at home. I find my working conditions very pleasant (though I've only been here 2 weeks). I was a teacher in the US, and I blogged about my initial impressions of the curriculum we're using, which is from the chain--generally positive.

Every branch is different though. Talk to foreign teachers past and present.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers folks,

I had the phone inteview today and it went well (or I think I did!) The nice lady on the phone said she was going to discuss my application/phone interview with her boss and they were going to phone me again.

I don't know if it is standard procedure.

I have read everything about the Korean job process and kimnjoe are the best recruiters around according to many on here. so I'm sure the Buk gu school is a good 'un!

I'm checking out your blog SS81! Very Happy
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kvalliant



Joined: 16 May 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Funny... Reply with quote

bejarano-korea wrote:
Cheers folks,

I had the phone inteview today and it went well (or I think I did!) The nice lady on the phone said she was going to discuss my application/phone interview with her boss and they were going to phone me again.

I don't know if it is standard procedure.

I have read everything about the Korean job process and kimnjoe are the best recruiters around according to many on here. so I'm sure the Buk gu school is a good 'un!

I'm checking out your blog SS81! Very Happy


I just had a phone interview with the head teacher at the Oedae in Hwamyeong-dong (near Busan). Good luck with yours, and may it turn out not to be a dud. Surprised
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Questions for new teachers to ask the current and past foreign teacher (if possible) at the school.

( 1 ) Work hours:

( a ) When does your workday start?

( b ) When does your workday end?

( c ) How many preparation hours do you work before the first class?

( d ) Does your employer force employees to work at other schools without permission from Korean Immigration Officials? Yes = Red flag

( e ) Does your employer provide you with time to take breaks during working hours that you can use freely? If so, then how long are your breaks?

( f ) Does your employer count time spent teaching in class including preparation between classes as a "work hour?"

( 2 ) Wages:

( a ) Are you always paid on time? No = Red flag

( b ) Does your employer pressure you or force you to give access to your bank account as well as your cash card? Yes = Red flag

( c ) Does your employer pay you in cash or deposit your monthly salary into your Korean bank account? Cash = Red flag

( d ) Does your employer provide you with pay receipts on payday stating the nature and amount of all deductions, taxes, and salary? No = Red flag

( e ) Does your employer give you holiday bonuses that are deductions from your monthly salary for income tax, pension or medical insurance? Yes = Red flag

( 3 ) Overtime wages:

( a ) Does your employer force employees to work overtime hours? Yes = Red flag

( b ) Does your employer pay you overtime wages or avoid paying them with creative book keeping? Avoid paying them with creative book keeping = Red flag

( 4 ) Paid annual leave:

( a ) Does your employer make deductions from your monthly salary on or during days of paid annual leave? Yes = Red flag

( b ) How do you use annual paid leave days?

( c ) When do you use annual paid leave days?

( 5 ) Korean National Holidays:

( a ) Does your employer "require you / force you" to work on Korean Nation Holidays? Yes = Red flag

( b ) Does your employer make deductions from your monthly salary on or during Korean National Holidays? Yes = Red flag

( 6 ) National Health Insurance Plan:

( a ) Does your employer provide you with a health insurance card? No = Red flag

( b ) Does your employer respect your medical privacy? No = Red flag

( 7 ) National Pension Plan:

( a ) Does your employer pay into pension? No = Red flag

( 8 ) What else do you do that's not written in your contract?

( 9 ) Is the school in financial trouble? Yes = Red flag

( 10 ) Paid sick days:

( a ) Does your employer let you take a paid sick day if you where unable to teach due to illness or injury? No = Red flag

( b ) Have you ever taken a paid sick day? What was your employer's reaction?

( c ) Did you ever have to make a paid sick day up at a later date? Yes = Red flag

( d ) Did your employer ever make deductions from your monthly salary for a paid sick day you took off? Yes = Red flag

( e ) If you used a paid sick day, did another native teacher work your classes during?

( 11 ) Does your employer have a history of firing employees for the sole purpose of not providing severance pay, wages and a plane ticket home? Yes = Red flag

( 12 ) Does your employer have a history of being verbally or physically abusive? Yes = Red flag

( 13 ) Does your employer have a history of "pocketing " deductions for taxes, pension and medical insurance? Yes = Red flag

( 14 ) Housing & accomodations:

( a ) Did your employer provide you with the furnishings stated in your contract when you moved in? No = Red flag

( b ) What were the overall conditions of your apartment including the furnishings when you moved in? Poor = Red flag

( c ) Does your employer make deductions from your monthly salary for housing deposits provided you signed a labor contract without a housing deposit clause? Yes = Red flag

( d ) Are all the utilities in your name or your bosses name?

( e ) Were all the utilities paid from the prior teacher before you moved in? If they were not, did you pay for them? You pay for them = Red flag

( f ) Does your employer walk into your apartment when you are in your apartment without your consent or do apartment searches when you are not in your apartment?

( 15 ) Did you get your passport, degree and transcripts back after receiving a work visa from Korean Immigration Officials? No = Red flag

( 16 ) What are the English speaking abilities of the Korean Teachers and your employer like? Poor = You'll have a rough year

( 17 ) Does your boss deduct income taxes from your monthly salary correctly? No = Red flag

( 18 ) Have there been complaints filed against your employer at the local labour office within the last year or two? If so, then what was it for? Yes = Red flag

( 19 ) Are there banks, gyms, train stations, subway stations, hospitals and airports close to the school?
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Funny... Reply with quote

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I just had a phone interview with the head teacher at the Oedae in Hwamyeong-dong (near Busan). Good luck with yours, and may it turn out not to be a dud. Surprised


I hope it went allright. Lets us know how it went.

I got the job but the director wants me to come out mid november. Shocked

I think it is the Korean way of saying 'thanks but no thanks'

Its not like I have a strong regional accent and the lady on the phone said as much but she did say that North American teachers are more ideal than teachers from England.

I know there are Brits out there working, does it take a smidgen longer to get a job if you are English than if you are from the North American continent?
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kvalliant



Joined: 16 May 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Funny... Reply with quote

bejarano-korea wrote:


I hope it went allright. Lets us know how it went.

I got the job but the director wants me to come out mid november. Shocked

I think it is the Korean way of saying 'thanks but no thanks'

Its not like I have a strong regional accent and the lady on the phone said as much but she did say that North American teachers are more ideal than teachers from England.

I know there are Brits out there working, does it take a smidgen longer to get a job if you are English than if you are from the North American continent?


I'll give you the heads-up once I know more. I let the recruiter know I need a job ASAP (I need to be back in time for my sister's wedding next September), so hopefully they wouldn't hook me up with a school that would do the same.

I doubt that they were flat-out rejecting you. I've talked to several people from England and Australia who are working out there (though none of them *so far* at an Oedae school... Hmmm...)

Best of luck finding another position that'll treat you well, and be careful. Mad
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kvalliant



Joined: 16 May 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Funny... Reply with quote

kvalliant wrote:


I'll give you the heads-up once I know more.


It's not just your accent, my friend. I didn't get a job with Oedae, either, and I have the middle-America non-accent. I wonder if they just don't want to hire ASAP any more. o.0

I get the feeling many more opportunities would open up if I were willing to teach Kindy. �.�
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