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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: English Abuse Reply with quote

Honestly, I know alcoholics in this country, people who piss the bed nightly or get sacked every two months who can still manage to use an apostrophe correctly. How come seemingly functional people can't? I think it's because most of you young folk weren't beaten enough at school.

That is all.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Havent' had you're morning coffee yet, have you?
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Havent' had you're morning coffee yet, have you?


Correct! Now go and get stuffed.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abuse the kids so that they don't abuse the language. I like it.
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's because everyone under the age of 35 have written more emails and IM's than they have actual letters and essays.
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Theda



Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newteacher wrote:
It's because everyone under the age of 35 have written more emails and IM's than they have actual letters and essays.


So what's your excuse?
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theda wrote:
newteacher wrote:
It's because everyone under the age of 35 have written more emails and IM's than they have actual letters and essays.


So what's your excuse?


I'm under 35. Besides, everyone under the age of 35=they=have. Plural subject and you're supposed to use have. You don't say 'they has' do you? The only time you use have with a singular subject is with 'I'. IM's a bit more murky, it's really just an abbreviation, I've just always seen it written with the apostrophe.

But go ahead and be a grammar nazi if you want.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newteacher wrote:
Theda wrote:
newteacher wrote:
It's because everyone under the age of 35 have written more emails and IM's than they have actual letters and essays.


So what's your excuse?


I'm under 35. Besides, everyone under the age of 35=they=have. Plural subject and you're supposed to use have. You don't say 'they has' do you? The only time you use have with a singular subject is with 'I'. IM's a bit more murky, it's really just an abbreviation, I've just always seen it written with the apostrophe.

But go ahead and be a grammar nazi if you want.


It's hard to ask others to stop being a grammar Nazi when you're a grammar Anne Frank.

"Everyone have a ticket."
"Everyone has a ticket."

Which one would you write in your diary?

PS) Under 35
PPS) Not a Nazi


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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newteacher wrote:

I'm under 35. Besides, everyone under the age of 35=they=have. Plural subject and you're supposed to use have. You don't say 'they has' do you? The only time you use have with a singular subject is with 'I'. IM's a bit more murky, it's really just an abbreviation, I've just always seen it written with the apostrophe.

But go ahead and be a grammar nazi if you want.


Sorry, dude. You're just plain wrong about the "have" thing. Just admit you got smoked while trying to put down someone else. Just live with it and move on.
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everyone have become grammar nazi's yet.
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
newteacher wrote:

I'm under 35. Besides, everyone under the age of 35=they=have. Plural subject and you're supposed to use have. You don't say 'they has' do you? The only time you use have with a singular subject is with 'I'. IM's a bit more murky, it's really just an abbreviation, I've just always seen it written with the apostrophe.

But go ahead and be a grammar nazi if you want.


Sorry, dude. You're just plain wrong about the "have" thing. Just admit you got smoked while trying to put down someone else. Just live with it and move on.


Well, thanks for correcting me. I wasn't the one who was putting someone else down though, so p!ss off. Grammar's a little more difficult when you're hungover.

The funniest thing is that I actually used 'has' at first and then corrected myself. My grammar's not really that bad, but I did just start teaching it about three weeks ago. It'll take me a while to brush up on the rules considering I haven't studied grammar since the 6th grade.
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xtchr wrote:
Not everyone have become grammar nazi's yet.



See this is why English grammar is such a b!tch.

Not everyone have become grammar nazi's actually sounds ok.

Not everyone has become a grammar nazi sounds better.

Or how about, they have become grammar nazi's.


Are both right?
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wo buxihuan hanguoren



Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Location: Suyuskis

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Not everyone have become grammar nazi's actually sounds ok.


Wow, what were you imbibing last night, if I may be so bold as to ask?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newteacher wrote:
xtchr wrote:
Not everyone have become grammar nazi's yet.



See this is why English grammar is such a *beep*.

Not everyone have become grammar nazi's actually sounds ok.

Not everyone has become a grammar nazi sounds better.

Or how about, they have become grammar nazi's.


Are both right?


The second one is the best. The first and third contain a very embarrassing apostrophe error. Also the third one contains a subject/verb disagreement.
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
newteacher wrote:
xtchr wrote:
Not everyone have become grammar nazi's yet.



See this is why English grammar is such a *beep*.

Not everyone have become grammar nazi's actually sounds ok.

Not everyone has become a grammar nazi sounds better.

Or how about, they have become grammar nazi's.


Are both right?


The second one is the best. The first and third contain a very embarrassing apostrophe error. Also the third one contains a subject/verb error.



Well, apostrophes are minor. When you hear someone speaking you don't know where the apostrophes are, so they always seemed less important to me than the actual sentence structure.

And like I said, I haven't studied grammar since the 6th grade, so I don't mind being corrected, as long as people aren't a$$es about it. We could all use a little constructive criticism now and then, but it's the attitude some have that makes them think they're better because they know every obscure rule (not that these are obscure), that irritates me. If you've been teaching English for years your grammar should be better than someone who just started, if it isn't then you're probably not a very good teacher because you can't even teach yourself.
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