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		| When  was  it   most  difficult  when  you  Quit  Smoking? | 
	   
	  
		
		  
			
			  | First  Day? | 
			  
				
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			   3%  | 
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			  | After  Meals? | 
			  
				
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			   10%  | 
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			  | First  Thing  in  the  Morning? | 
			  
				
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			   6%  | 
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			  | When  people  around you  lit  up? | 
			  
				
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			   6%  | 
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			  | During  Stressful  Times? | 
			  
				
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			   23%  | 
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			  | While  Drinking? | 
			  
				
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			   40%  | 
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			  | When  Drinking  Coffee | 
			  
				
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			   0%  | 
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			  | After  Sex? | 
			  
				
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			   3%  | 
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			  | Other | 
			  
				
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			   6%  | 
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		mrsquirrel
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				See for me it was easy. I just woke up one morning and new it was the day to quit.
 
 
Stopping drinking was harder for me than stopping smoking. That took some serious will power. | 
			 
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		jhaelin
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				i remember watching a doc many years back about smoking and how the chemical acetyl aldehyde is supposed to be linked with habbit forming response in our brain chemistry. so smoking after meals, beers, or after stress, links the chemical with a rise in seratonin levels during those events.
 
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when you quit you should try to avoid activites associated with rise in seratonin levels during your weakest moments. e.g. don't eat chocolate after meals or during stress in lieu of smoking because you are only replacing one chemical stimulant for another while the craving for something will continue to remain...
 
which is why fasting is so condusive to losing subtance habbits.
 
 
i quite smoking and didn't have the rough first week because i was doing a "master cleanse", lemon juice fast. | 
			 
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		Keepongoing
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: oooooooooooh | 
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				2  days  without a  smoke.  Last  night  a  very  disturbed  sleep.  The  voice is  like  a  nagging  woman.  Tomorrow night, if  I  go  drinking  in  Itaewan,  will  I  make  it though 3  days?  Do  I  really  want  to  do this?
 
 
Well-I  do  not  want  to  smell  like  smoke!
 
 
I  hate the  inconvenience  of being  home and  comfortable  and  finding  out that I  have  2  cigarettes  left  and  no  others  in  my flat,  so  I  have  to  dress  and  run  to the  store.
 
 
I  reallly,  realllllly  miss that  first  one  in  the  morning!!!!!!!!   Coffee  without a  cigarette    Beer  without a  cigarette     The  other  thing  without  a  cigarette   .
 
 
 
 
Oh  well   Keep  plugging   on | 
			 
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		Son Deureo!
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: oooooooooooh | 
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	  2  days  without a  smoke.  Last  night  a  very  disturbed  sleep.  The  voice is  like  a  nagging  woman.  Tomorrow night, if  I  go  drinking  in  Itaewan,  will  I  make  it though 3  days?  Do  I  really  want  to  do this?
 
 
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Day 3 was always the hardest for me.  Don't go out drinking on day 3, stay home and save going out to the bars for when your head no longer feels like it's going to cave in for lack of nicotine.
 
 
Stay home, watch movies, and go to bed early.
 
 
Trust me, I'm at four and a half years smoke free and counting after a 12 year pack-a-day habit. | 
			 
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		SPINOZA
 
 
  Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Nicotine withdrawal peaks at about 4 days and subsides after about 7, but really, to be 100% okay, give it 14 days.
 
 
And remember - quiting nicotine is very easy compared to quitting alcohol or narcotics. Quitting booze or heroin incapacitates the user, making straightforward tasks and relationships almost impossible. Alcohol withdrawal is so severe, it's strongly advised that a would-be alcohol quitter seek professional help and NOT go cold turkey, whereas with nicotine withdrawal, cold turkey is your best bet. Alcohol and heroin quitters frequently commit suicide. | 
			 
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		Xerxes
 
  
  Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I had been quit 3 years once before, then I started this really stressful job that got me back on the smokin horse. Most recently, I had been quit for 5 years then I found these Cuban cigars on Jeju-do.
 
 
They smelled great and those things being illegal in the US, I couldn't resist and bought a few. Although it was mouth smoking, I guess I was still getting the nicotine into my system through my blood vessels in my mouth (and it is a rush because they are so strong). After an odd bout of a cigar here or there in a span of about two months and then having this one guy at work I hung out with constantly smoking in front of me got me started again.
 
 
AFTER 5 YEARS! I don't smoke more than 10 a day when into the work week, but I hardly smoke at all when I am at home.
 
 
I asked my doctor about this and he said the serotonin/dopamine levels are what I am addicted to, and not necessarily the nicotine. jhaelin's point above, too, I guess.
 
 
I have never had a big weight gain in my other long times being quit, but the on-again, off-again smoking is really giving me a big weight gain, especially after my latest trip to the States and treating myself to some "real" cookin food.
 
 
I would even consider the fast, but I'm afraid that the binge that might follow and the lack of energy while I am working might together do me in, if the nic won't.
 
 
This is me smokin after I got real smug and claimed it was so easy to quit in some other quitting smoking thread.
 
 
The ironies of life! Who'da thunk it! *Arrghhhh* | 
			 
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		Keepongoing
 
 
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		Cliffhanger
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Don't know if I'm qualified to participate in this poll because I am still smoking, but...
 
I have tried to quit many times. I always try to quit when I get sick. Hate the taste of smoke when I'm sick. I would agree with those that say to be careful having a few at the bar. That's how I started again almost everytime. It starts out as " I'll just have one ", then " I'll just have a couple" , then " I'll just buy one pack. Then the next thing you know you're smoking more then you used to   . I would like to quit, but the problem is... I just love smoking too much   | 
			 
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		igotthisguitar
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject:  | 
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				i've quit again recently ... whooh-hoo!   
 
 
wanna quit?  really?  sick of being a weak slave to ignorance & death?
 
 
 
Fine, try this one on for size.
 
 
 
i command thee to:
 
 
 
"TURN THE WILL, & thereby empower thyself!!"
 
 
 
 
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		Keepongoing
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: i  did  it | 
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				| well  I  did  go  out  drinking  last  night,  but  I  never  lit  up!  I  am  now  working  on  my  4th  day   without a  cig. | 
			 
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		oneofthesarahs
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  Don't know if I'm qualified to participate in this poll because I am still smoking, but...
 
I have tried to quit many times. I always try to quit when I get sick. Hate the taste of smoke when I'm sick. I would agree with those that say to be careful having a few at the bar. That's how I started again almost everytime. It starts out as " I'll just have one ", then " I'll just have a couple" , then " I'll just buy one pack. Then the next thing you know you're smoking more then you used to   . I would like to quit, but the problem is... I just love smoking too much   | 
	 
 
 
 
I dunno.  I'm a "just at the bar" smoker.  I'll smoke one or two at a bar sometimes, and I honestly will not smoke any more than that.  I've never smoked outside of a bar/party setting.  And I doubt I've ever smoked more than a pack a month, at my heaviest point of smoking in college.  Now I don't go to bars that often, so I hardly ever smoke.  I've gone for months and months without smoking.  I've read that some people are just more prone to addiction to others, and I think there might be some validity to that thought. | 
			 
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		Cliffhanger
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  Don't know if I'm qualified to participate in this poll because I am still smoking, but...
 
I have tried to quit many times. I always try to quit when I get sick. Hate the taste of smoke when I'm sick. I would agree with those that say to be careful having a few at the bar. That's how I started again almost everytime. It starts out as " I'll just have one ", then " I'll just have a couple" , then " I'll just buy one pack. Then the next thing you know you're smoking more then you used to   . I would like to quit, but the problem is... I just love smoking too much   | 
	 
 
 
 
I dunno.  I'm a "just at the bar" smoker.  I'll smoke one or two at a bar sometimes, and I honestly will not smoke any more than that.  I've never smoked outside of a bar/party setting.  And I doubt I've ever smoked more than a pack a month, at my heaviest point of smoking in college.  Now I don't go to bars that often, so I hardly ever smoke.  I've gone for months and months without smoking.  I've read that some people are just more prone to addiction to others, and I think there might be some validity to that thought. | 
	 
 
 
 
I can see it not being a problem if you were smoking "just at the bar" all along, but for those that were moderate to heavy smokers and trying to quit, having just a couple at the bar can be an opening to start again.
 
 
I think one of my biggest problems and for many others is that smoking is a routine, smoke while drinking, while having a coffee, during breaks, walking to and from places. Its hard to break those habits, like walking home from school is really boring, but having a smoke makes it more enjoyable. Having just a couple at the bar will give you just enough of the "taste" for it to start again on those walks home, and then it fugs everything up.
 
 
I guess the answer for me is to quit going to bars, but then that would suck more than quitting smoking.    | 
			 
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		igotthisguitar
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: i  did  it | 
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	  | well  I  did  go  out  drinking  last  night,  but  I  never  lit  up!  I  am  now  working  on  my  4th  day   without a  cig. | 
	 
 
 
 
 
You can do it!
 
 
It really is, most of it, simply MIND over matter    | 
			 
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		ChopChaeJoe
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Pretty much, when I'm on fire. I just smoke and smoke. Even fter i douse myself with water, steam mmixed with smouldering smoke continues to rise.
 
 
Seriously though, Two weeks without a cigarette. I set a date, waited until that date, then quit. I was offered a cigarette at a bar by some Koreans, I accepted and took one puff, then i was dragged onto the dance floor by this 40ish woman and left the cigarette behind. Close call. | 
			 
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		Keepongoing
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: wow | 
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				24  days  without  a  cigarette  still  get the  occassional  small  craving-still  appreciate the  pleasure  of  smoking  and amazed  at  myself  that  I  am  not  smoking.  
 
 
I  am  eating  a  lot  more-  almost  always  hungry | 
			 
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