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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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interesting timing esp. with the 'summit' just wrapping up in Pyong-Yang.
coincidence? |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| I'm from Jeonju and I can't think of one Jeonju night club that I would be THAT desperate to get to. WEIRD! I didn't even hear about this until I just read this story.... |
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| I-am-me wrote: |
| 2 Americans sentenced for allegedly beating taxi driver. We all know koreans embelish their stories to get more money. |
It's no longer alleged now that those Americans have confessed, been convicted and sentenced.
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| The men gave contradictory accounts throughout the trial of what happened that night, with each placing the most blame on the others. |
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=49233
That smells highly of guilt to me. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Americans sentenced in Korea |
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How can you read that story, written and published by the American army, in which the soldiers confess their guilt in court, pay damages and take up the bible to demonstrate their contrition and good intentions ... and then all you've got to say is, "Koreans embellish their stories to get more money"? |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Americans sentenced in Korea |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
How can you read that story, written and published by the American army, in which the soldiers confess their guilt in court, pay damages and take up the bible to demonstrate their contrition and good intentions ... and then all you've got to say is, "Koreans embellish their stories to get more money"? |
Agreed. What an absurd OP. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| one guard laid his hands on Martens� shoulders, and another held a cold 7-Up can against the spot where he bumped his head. |
LOL  |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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The sentence was quite lenient in my view.
Make no mistake this was a car jacking.
Ten thousand is basic personal injury coverage in the US.
I would hope the US will move to have them placed in a US military prison to serve their time. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
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| one guard laid his hands on Martens� shoulders, and another held a cold 7-Up can against the spot where he bumped his head. |
LOL |
I can see 7-Up's new commercial now: "7-Up. Keeping you cool. In Korea. In court!"
Note: I posted a link on the Korea Bridge job advice forum to the Stars & Stripes article before this thread was posted. In that thread, I mentioned that I really wish Korea would ban these "apology payments." The decision of how much the compensatory damages are should be up to the judge, not the victim and certainly not the offender. Korea has made a small step in that already. It's illegal for a Korean police officer to accept apology money. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| I would hope the US will move to have them placed in a US military prison to serve their time. |
That's not what the Status of Forces Agreement provides. While in custody in Korea, their Commanding Officer must ensure periodic visits from representatives of the command, to include (if I recall correctly) a military Chaplain, to check on their welfare and morale. The incarcerated individuals are also permitted to receive Western meals and a few other benefits. Once they are paroled or have completed their sentences, the US military will return them to the United States for separation from the Armed Forces. |
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rickvaughn
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Location: near Honorary Seoul Drive, Chicago
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Americans sentenced in Korea |
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Just like we all know American GI's are all perfect angels who are never violent?
I'm an American and I fully support GI's. However, I know that some of them are just kids who's only option left in life was to join the military. Its those few kids that give a bad name/reputation to the US Armed Forces.
Koreans embellishing to get more money?? How about a woman who gets millions of dollars cuz her hot Mcdonald's coffee burned her. Or the smoker who swears he had no idea cigarettes were bad for him getting millions. Or a judge who wants millions of dollars for a missing pair of pants in a dry cleaning store.
I guess its only Koreans that embellish stories to get more money. Its an isolated cultural/genetic trait that is only linked to Koreans. Thanks for reminding all of us what we already know OP. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
The men gave contradictory accounts throughout the trial of what happened that night, with each placing the most blame on the others. |
What's the Prisoner's Dilemma in game theory say they should have done? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
The men gave contradictory accounts throughout the trial of what happened that night, with each placing the most blame on the others. |
What's the Prisoner's Dilemma in game theory say they should have done? |
They should not have beaten the crap out of a taxi driver. Hence, they would not face a prisoner's dilemma in the first place is my answer. |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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I followed this story from the beginning. It was never a "beating". The korean police and prosecutor came out with that version. The korean could not even recall who it was that hit him so the whole thing is questionable.
"The taxi driver initially told police that Carpenter hit him, but later changed his statement, the South Korean judge said."
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